quote Originally posted by Rogue_Ant: [B] Sigh. Everyone always wants a 'magic power solution' they can either poor into their fuel tank or something as arbitrarily simple. Now if your feeling a power increase its prob. because your old spark plugs were worn and the gap was too much for your ignition system to jump. 87'gt 3.4L [This message has been edited by 2fn4wrds (edited 09-10-2002).]
2fn4wrds SEP 10, 12:11 AM With all due respect, Don't you old standards ever read the the threads fully that you are respononding to. My car has been running perfectly. The plugs that came out were six months old bosch platinium gapped @ .045 exactly. Some of you guys need to stop trying to be YODA and do some research or at least take the time to read the thread responders. You just dive in and make fools of yourselves. I don't need a lesson on innercombustion engines. The thread is about a spark plug that has great respect with much international acclaim and because it does'nt exsist in your head it must not be of any consequence. Give me a break. Go do some research and then come back a little more educated since you don't want to read through this thread. Uggg ------------------ 87'gt 3.4L [This message has been edited by 2fn4wrds (edited 09-10-2002).]
FieroMaster88 SEP 10, 12:17 AM Hey man, thats cool! I might try these plugs out sometime. Hell, anything has to be better than Bosch Platinums!
2fn4wrds SEP 10, 12:41 AM [QUOTE]Originally posted by FieroMaster88: Hey man, thats cool! I might try these plugs out sometime. Hell, anything has to be better than Bosch Platinums!

Actually I just checked again they are almost new autolite platinums and the car ran perfectly before I changed the plugs.

'Old standards'???
LOL I'm 22, so don't give me old standards crap.
And research my Ass have you dyno'ed your car with 'regular plugs' then changed over to the iridiums, no you haven't so WTF do you know?
Oh, I'm sorry SCC said they found 50hp increase with them...I know they said that because I read that.
That was on an engine making 500hp, and the power gain can be attributed to the fact their gap was too large for the amount of boost they were pushing.

Go ahead and tell me your getting more power then regular plugs, and I will pull the BS flag.
Give me a break, just because you want to rationalize spending 70bucks for spark plugs don't come here with that crap about now you have a race car...
Any time you want to race common up here, and me and my NGK'ed talon will give you more then you ever want.

Rogue

P.S. you might not need a lesson on 'innercombution engines' but at least learn how to spell it correctly.

HAHAHAHAHA Sorry son but you are nowhere near 200 hp. I dont' give a sh!t what your freinds ass dyno tells them or you.

There are people on here with "built" 3.4 liters and they are only at about 180 hp(155 whp) These "built" ones include a total rebuild, minor porting of the heads, larger cam, headers, ported intake and larger TB, and underdrive pulley. You have none of those so you are way under 200.

You think adding Iridium plugs, free flowing intake, 1.6 rockers, MSD, and For christs sakes Zmax????? will put you close to 200 hp??? LOL sorry but you are sorely mistaken. If you go to a dyno within the next week(before Sept 18) and dyno above 175 hp peak at the wheels then I will pay for your dyno run. That should make it worth it if you are so confident that you have that much power. That is if you did list all the current mods there to your 3.4. I think it is hilarious that you think you picked up almost 40 hp with those mods you listed. You sound like one of those guys that believes every horsepower claim made as being actual to what your car will make. AKA RICER!

I think you are under 150 whp.

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I agree.
2fn4wrds, we are not trying to be mean, but don't come here and then tell us we don't know anything. There is _a lot_ of very informed people on this forum. And like it or not there is a reason the spark-plug has remaned mostly unchanged for over 50 years.

First it was platinum plugs which were supposed to give a 5+ HP boost. Then it was split-electrode plugs which were supposed to give a 5+ HP boost. Then it was multi-electrode plugs which were supposed to give a 5+ HP boost. Now it's iridium plugs.

When you get right down to it, a spark plug is a device which allows the ignition system to set off a controlled explosion at a precise time. The heat range and gap of the plug are very important...but I fail to see how the composition of the plug makes a damn bit of difference. As long as the spark is in the right place, at the right time, and at the right intensity, the engine will work as it is supposed to.

The spark plug ignites a certain volume of a fuel-air mixture. How does merely changing the composition of the spark plug generate more power? I'd like to understand this. Can anyone explain it to me? To be perfectly honest, these things sound like the "monster cables" of spark plugs: hyperexpensive for an entirely subjective gain....

Myself, I'm running an MSD setup along with NGK UR5GP platinium spark plugs. I did try the Bosch +4 plugs. Result, fried center electrode - incorrect gap. Note, I did use these for several years with a stock ignition with no problem. The point to is that depending on the setup results will vary slightly when different spark plugs are used. Before I went to the NGK UR5GP I tried the UR5 steel plug. I can perceive NO difference. However, the platinium spark plug SHOULD last longer.