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| CLIFF, THIS IS ENOUGH! (Page 3/6) |
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Fiero 88
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APR 18, 04:02 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sloth85GT: How does if work with moderators? What are they in charge of? What do they do?
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Moderators are in charge of a certain section. They keep an eye on the threads in their section for flamers/trolls. If one makes their presence known, they have the power to lock threads delete posts ect. in the section they are in charge of. I think having moderators is a good idea. There are more people to control the "pests" of the forum. I am a moderator on dodgeintrepid.net and I know it's alot easier over there to control the trolls with all of us keeping an eye out for them, and having the power to do something about it.  ------------------ Chris--1988 Fiero coupe "If Yoda great Jedi master he is, then why not he good sentence construct?"
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Cliff Pennock
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APR 18, 05:50 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by TRiAD: But I also don't need to continuously be subjected to trolls. I think the time has come for moderators. 4600+ users? I think it's just too much for him. |
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It's not. And there aren't many trolls. If all you can think of are the few you mentioned, then I'd say that's an incredibly small number - considering the number of members and the time this forum has been up. Go visit a few other forums, you'll see the number of trolls almost equals the number of legit members.
| quote | | And the software does not appear to be able to ban people very effectively, or Cliff is choosing to let them return. (No idea why that could be, if that's it). |
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The software isn't, but I am. Of course the software isn't smart enough to recognize certain similarity between different users and find out they are the same person. I do. And if I choose to ban someone, I don't let them return. Yo_sweet was never banned before, and I have said that numerous times in numerous posts. If he made it sound that he was banned and I allowed him back, then that's his problem. And the latest troll you are talking about isn't yo_sweet. Unless he moved to Virginia all of a sudden.
| quote | | I love this place, but the level of sheer tolerance for harassment and threats between members is unconscionable. |
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Strange. I don't see a lot of members having much problems. In fact, the number of flamewars and such is still (relatively spoken) very small. Again, try some other boards and you'll find out that just about every other thread turns into a flamewar. I say I've done a pretty darn good job so far, and extra moderators will not help make it any better.
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Indy-2M4
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APR 18, 06:25 AM
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You say the latest troll is in Virginia? Isn't that where Blackstang is? Hmmmmm....... ------------------ '84 Indy w/66K actual miles, second owner Also: 84SE, 87GT and 88GT
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TRiAD
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APR 18, 08:42 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by JohnnyK: I think my wrong is a lot different than your wrong.. thats why. If I start a thread talking about your favourite fictional characters (Adam and eve, and what not), your going to throw a hissy fit, saying it should be deleted... |
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Hey dumb@ss, you can at least TRY to base your arguments on something solid. I had NEVER asked for the HP thread to be deleted, and I never asked for it to be locked until ray (who you call intelligent and a help to others?) said all of a certain large group of people should be KILLED. That's a whole lot different than simply having a differing opinion than me. That's monstorous. Right up there with Hitler. I have NO problem disagreeing with people here, and that's NOT what moderators are about. Different people have different opinions. BUT, when someone follows another member around for 2 weeks searching for all that member's posts so he can bash them, that's uncalled for. When a members is sending viruses from the admin email, ANYWHERE else on the 'net, he'd be banned...and I know several places he'd encounter legal problems. Cliff, thanks for your reply. I agree, by and large, that you do an excellent job here. BUT I do believe you are too laxed and forgiving when it comes to treatment of the members here. A little respect for your guests goes a long way. If this were your house, and someone began harassing the other guests without provokation, I suspect your response would be more swift and severe, if even temporary. And no, those are not the only trolls here, but they were by far the biggest. I honestly believe SlammedFiero, for his actions the last couple weeks, and even JohnnyK on occasion, have stepped way over the line. I'll say it again; a difference of opinion is an opportunity for everyone to grow. Stating that difference in an inflamitory way is an opportunity for the flamer to grow, through correction, and threats and harrassment makes for an opportunity to prune the bushes, or even pull some weeds, occasionally.
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JSocha
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APR 18, 09:44 AM
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 Nuff said------------------ "The PRE10DR"
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GodSend
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APR 18, 10:03 AM
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Triad, Maybe its time to take a step back look in the mirror. You are complaining about trolls, and flame wars this and that ... What I look down this thread the only one causing anything (and calling people names) .... is.... YOU! Now I don't like to point fingers, and I dont recall ever being in a war myself, but its hard to listen to someone complaining about these kind of things when the past few problems have been centered around you. Learn to have thick skin, and walk away, not everyone will agree with you, and the second they get a reaction from you is the second they are going to try to get more....
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DaRkLoRD
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APR 18, 10:04 AM
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ok, I should have clarified that I meant within my own home or place of business.. if I'm with someone who is smoking outside, I'll just move so I'm not downwind (I'm VERY allergic to tobacco smoke, makes my throat close up.) and if I go to a bar and the smoke bothers me, I leave.. but if someone is intentionally blowing smoke in my face even after I've asked them to stop.. I'd likely do something about it, rather than just leave. ------------------ steve@digitalfusion.on.ca http://www.fieroproject.com
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Cliff Pennock
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APR 18, 11:02 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by TRiAD: BUT I do believe you are too laxed and forgiving when it comes to treatment of the members here. |
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If with "here" you mean the TO/T section, then yes, you are correct. I am very forgiving for what happens here. Which is a good thing or by now there would be hardly any members left on the forum.
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thomas_l
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APR 18, 11:08 AM
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Not trying to defend a troll or anything but in the thread you (Triad) referenced, you made a pretty remarkable boast. Whether its a true statement or not, you then allowed the troll to get the better of you. When that happens you start on the slippery slope that some less than desireable forum members get on all the time - arguing a point to infinite detail with anyone who challenges instead of letting your statement hold its own (ala EdsB52) and responding only to challenges with merit. For that matter, furious_fiero was challenging in a similar fashion and nobody bit. He made a simple challenge to you (list the a few cars that you bragged about) that might have been interesting to see an answer to if you hadn't been busy flaming the troll. At the same time nobody jumped on furious for trolling. Maybe it was his tone. I dunno. Again, no offense intended. I'm just pointing out that it takes more than just a nasty post or three to make a troll successful.
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falconhulk
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APR 18, 11:14 AM
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Relax Triad. You seem to be going off an awful lot. A troll is someone that attempts to get a response from people with deliberate stupid comments. You on the other hand are getting down right nasty. Ease off. Just becasue someone does not agree or even think you are telling the truth is no reason to call names or attack. Cant you see your attitude is drawing people to make comments about you?
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