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bornobsessed
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MAR 17, 03:16 AM
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*shoots for the trash can*
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Fastback 86
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MAR 17, 03:47 AM
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In before the lock.
Man, I can't wait till I sell this thing and get a new car.
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Gokart Mozart
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MAR 17, 04:24 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by crzyone:
I don't care how much power any engine puts out. If you have a 170hp 305 V-8 fiero, fine, I don't care. Its the guys that install a motor and say it's 400+hp and you KNOW it can't make that much... that's what bugs me.
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OK, it bugs you. Calling them out does nothing. Move on and take whatever they say from now on with a grain of salt.
Glad I only read part of page 1 and this page. I didn't lose 15 minutes. 
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Oreif
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MAR 17, 04:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Emc209i:
So when are you planing to Turbo...? Any plans? |
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No turbo's planned. In fact I have no upgrades to the engine planned at all. It is what it is.
My car has enough power to make it fun to drive, it also rides/handles like I want, and looks how I want it to look.
Why do I need to change anything?
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FIEROPHREK
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MAR 17, 05:58 AM
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So are we now comparing modded engines? Those are not stock numbers for the GTR . If you would like i can post links to small block powered cars that make over 2000 hp. Thats not the topic of this discussion though. What is is the fact that Archie cannot post or do anything whithout people ridiculing his techniques or methods. Does it really matter how Archie runs HIS business? Are any of you getting any kind of kickbacks from the sale or bashing of his products? I doubt it.
Why not let the man build the cars the way his customers want and leave it at that?
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ARCHIES JUNK IS FASTER THAN SHAUNNA'S JUNK
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Oreif
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MAR 17, 05:59 AM
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Why wait a year for 1500 whp when you can buy a Nelson Racing Engines Twin Turbo Small Block Chevy which Dyno'd at 1931 WHP?
(Video's are on Youtube.)
The point isn't that a V-8 is better, The point is that it really doesn't matter. As technology advances engines, regardless of displacement, are going to get more power. There is always going to be someone building an engine faster than another.
| quote | Originally posted by Emc209i:
The only person being stalked in this thread is the vendor... We were talking about the reasons why Archie's cars under perform.... remember.
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So if Archie is the only one being stalked, Why is it almost every SBC powered Fiero video on youtube or streetfires has derogatory comments from them? (them meaning the "stalkers")
Why is it almost every SBC powered Fiero owner on PFF has received the "hate mail" from them?
Prostreet and BMWguru both have built their own engines and are in the process of completing their swaps. Even before the swaps have been completed and tuned, they are already receiving the "hate mail".
Archie's cars under perform? Under perform compared to what? There are many "SBC's" out there ranging from a 160hp 305 all the way up to a turbo 383 mounted in a Fiero.
Yes a 160 hp 305 is only going to run in the high 14's (maybe even low 15's), But a ZZ4 runs in the 12's (3 confirmed examples) and a 383 on juice runs in the 11's (2 confirmed examples). It is a fact that around 275 to 300 rwhp in a Fiero runs in the 12 second range, Regardless of the engine used. It has been proven with SBC's, N*'s, 3800SC's, and 3.4DOHC with a turbo, (see 1/4 mile thread) so how do SBC's "under perform"?
If someone has Archie install a 350 H.O. rated at 330hp and because of emissions the owner slaps on a stock TPI system, which we know reduces the engines power, and the owner claims 400hp or the owner gives Archie an engine that was "claimed" to be 400hp and Archie installs it and the car does not perform like a 400hp car, How is it Archie's fault?[This message has been edited by Oreif (edited 03-17-2008).]
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Cliff Pennock
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MAR 17, 06:38 AM
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To me, this is just
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whodeanie
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MAR 17, 07:20 AM
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Damn are we still harping on this s**t all weekend ? [This message has been edited by whodeanie (edited 03-18-2008).]
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TXGOOD
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MAR 17, 07:52 AM
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I think most people know you can run the same parts in the same type of engine and still not get the same horsepower as someone else, so if you think someone is making an outrageous claim about the amount of horsepower they are getting out of an engine, so what. The only time they have to prove anything is if they are challenged on the track.
As far as engines go, if I ever do a swap it will be an SBC, frankly because I want that "wow" factor that an SBC creates in a Fiero and I want something I can work on. After all of the stories about how expensive a 3800SC is to rebuild if need be, I would rather have an engine that you can get parts for at an auto parts store in any podunk out of the way town you could ever be in. Plus, in a Fiero I don`t think advanced technology is always the way to go. It`s great for the newer cars that you are going to trade in every couple of years, but unless you are really up to date on that technology if you have to take it in to have anything worked on it`s going to cost a fortune.
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FIEROPHREK
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MAR 17, 08:06 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
To me, this is just
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Damn it cliff i was trying to be angry and you had to ruin it LOL ! ! so are you gonna can this thread or not?
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