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84Bill
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NOV 13, 06:02 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
And it keeps comming back to THAT!
Damn, EVERYONE HERE IS SMARTER THEN THAT!!!!!
It's not rocket science.
Replace "Blacks" with "homosexual" in his letter.
Or "Women".
Or "People with red hair".
Why don't people get it?
If this slides today, tomorrow it could be something YOU'RE doing!
Never happen, right?
Ever thought there would come a day when it would be againest the law to fry donuts in grease?
It's here.
Ever thought there would come a day when it would be againest the law to eat Pate'?
It's here.
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Hang in there Boonie... you are doing just fine.
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Boondawg
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NOV 13, 06:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierofetish:
I guess my attitude has been coloured by events in my life, and therefore could well be construed as biased. In fact, I acknowledge it is.
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It is a wise man that can examine from where his opinions spring, and the power expiriences can have over mindsets.
Thank you.
That shows me a self-exporitory & ever-evolving mind.
A rare thing, indeed.
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 06:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
It is a wise man that can examine from where his opinions spring, and the power expiriences can have over mindsets.
Thank you.
That shows me a self-exporitory & ever-evolving mind.
A rare thing, indeed.
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You could just use Lurkers quote. 
"The more I learn, the more I appreciate the depth and breadth of my ignorance. We are all fools, the wisest of us are aware of it, the rest..." - Lurker
Powerful and poingent.
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Taijiguy
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NOV 13, 06:11 PM
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Patrick, I think you are basing certain comments on an assumption, which is that if a person disagrees with something, that it equates to hatred. And that's just not accurate. That's not to say that there aren't those who disagree because of their hatred, but that doesn't make it the rule. My personal motto is "live and let live". You do what you want, I do what I want, and as long as we don't harm each other, so be it. The only people harmed in this story is the company that exercised their free choice to not expose themselves or their employees to people living a lifestyle they disagree with. Was that harmful to the gay couple? Maybe their ego wa bruised, but so what? If they're as proud and tolerant as they expect other people to be, why couldn't they just say, "hey, that's cool. There are other companies that'll do the job. No problem." But no, instead, they launch a full-on attack at this company. Can you or anyone honestly look at the situation and not see just how childish this gay couple behaved? The fact of the matter is, their actions absolutely personify to me the reason I resent so many of these special interest groups, they expect others to be tolerant of them, yet they absolutely extend no tolerance towards those who don't treat them in a way they expect. Respect is not something you can demand of anyone, it has to be earned. And frankly, their actions in this matter don't lead me to show them respect, it leaves me believing they're nothing more than whiney little drama queens. And no, I don't hate gays. But I *DO* very much dislike whiney little drama queens. I feel sorry for any company that WOULD do business with them, they would probably be the clients from hell.
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Falcon4
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NOV 13, 06:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
It's not rocket science.
Replace "Blacks" with "homosexual" in his letter.
Or "Women".
Or "People with red hair".
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I have to pause my spree of [one type of] nonsensible gibberish for a moment to point this out:
People are born black, women, or with red hair. People choose to be gay. That's been pointed out a hundred times in this totally useless topic... but this discussion is going in circles anyway. Nobody learns anything from this useless crap, it'll just waste peoples' time reading and writing.
Yay.
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Taijiguy
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NOV 13, 06:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
And it keeps comming back to THAT!
Damn, EVERYONE HERE IS SMARTER THEN THAT!!!!!
It's not rocket science.
Replace "Blacks" with "homosexual" in his letter.
Or "Women".
Or "People with red hair".
Why don't people get it?
If this slides today, tomorrow it could be something YOU'RE doing!
Never happen, right?
Ever thought there would come a day when it would be againest the law to fry donuts in grease?
It's here.
Ever thought there would come a day when it would be againest the law to eat Pate'?
It's here.
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So a person is entitled to their opinion, unless it is in disagreement with the lifetsyle/color/creed of a person who has proclaimed themselves a minority? Any chance I could get a complete list of those who are off-limits to any critisism or opposition? Would I be on that list, or is it OK if poeple just say what they want about me? How about if that person is gay/black/Hispanic? Is the list null and void then, or am I required to just sit quietly? Any wiggle-room anywhere in there?
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JohnnyK
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NOV 13, 06:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Falcon4:
People choose to be gay.
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Uhh, pointed out but it's very incorrect. They can 'choose' to be straight the same way you can to be gay. Of course they'd never know this, they won't talk to gays.
Genes, environment, who knows, but I'm going to say the former.
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Phranc
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NOV 13, 06:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Falcon4:
I have to pause my spree of [one type of] nonsensible gibberish for a moment to point this out:
People are born black, women, or with red hair. People choose to be gay. That's been pointed out a hundred times in this totally useless topic... but this discussion is going in circles anyway. Nobody learns anything from this useless crap, it'll just waste peoples' time reading and writing.
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Can you prove its a choice?Are you gay? Did you chose? Religion is a choice is it ok to discriminate againt christians?
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Falcon4
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NOV 13, 06:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by JohnnyK:
Uhh, pointed out but it's very incorrect. They can 'choose' to be straight the same way you can to be gay. Of course they'd never know this, they won't talk to gays.
Genes, environment, who knows, but I'm going to say the former. |
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Do you speak English? Why don't you speak Japanese or something? It must be in your genes then... or perhaps it's just the way you learned things work through your environment.
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 06:25 PM
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Pay close attention to this quote.
| quote | Originally posted by Taijiguy:
Patrick, I think you are basing certain comments on an assumption, which is that if a person disagrees with something, that it equates to hatred. |
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"The freedom of opinion and the reasonable maintenance of it is not a crime and ought not to occasion injury." --Thomas Jefferson to Gideon Granger, 1801
It's fine to have an opinion against a gay lifestyle but when it INJURES, that is where the line is drawn and "hate" / "crime" comes into the picture. Injury without justice will bring about further injury and further the pain.
It's fine to not like gays.. that IS an opinion and anyone can have it BUT it is NOT OKAY to injure someone by refusing service to them simply because they are gay. Thats where opinions injure. Refusal of service because they are gay IS NOT an opinion anymore.. thats an action.
Thats what TJ was saying..
It's okay to have an opinion as long as it does not injure another..
The COMPANY injured another citizen by refusing service. Not the individuals running the COMPANY...... but the PUBLIC COMPANY. The COMPANIES policy is in need of correction and its people might need sensitivity training to help them cope with the world outside of their own little church....I mean work place. Afterall they do deal with the public... You know the little country they live in called AMERICA? home to 300 million others?[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 11-13-2006).]
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