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edhering
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JUL 12, 09:35 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by 84Bill: YES IT IS a problem.. nobody wants to HIRE me full time AKA "OUTSOURCED". Thats why I am a Computer CONSULTANT and not a Computer TECHNICIAN or FULL TIME employee making 45k a year with benefits. Soooo... Do you want to continue to question my credibility regarding what I KNOW about being an UNEMPLYED computer TECHNICIAN Or just spout off more meaning less barf from that piehole whilst resting up on high? |
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Dude, I hate to tell you this, but the computer field is all entry-level now. It's been dead since the Dot-Com bust. You're not going to make $45k per year as a computer technician because there are folks out there with MCSE and more who can't find work. I'm a frickin' electrical engineer and I can't find a job even doing technical writing right now, much less anything to do with computers. Why? Because I don't program. There are all sorts of jobs out there for folks who can code. They need 5 years' experience in Oracle or Java or SQL or all of the above...but there is nothing for "mere" technicians. But I never was much of a programmer, and at age 37 I probably never will be. And anyway I learned a long time ago that I don't like writing programs, anyway. If I were you I'd start looking for some "displaced worker" funding and get some training in another field. The days of computer techs being able to command even $30k per year are over. Me, I'm going to be an MRI tech...that pays about $45k per year with benefits.... Ed
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84Bill
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JUL 12, 09:57 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by edhering: Dude, I hate to tell you this, but the computer field is all entry-level now. It's been dead since the Dot-Com bust. You're not going to make $45k per year as a computer technician because there are folks out there with MCSE and more who can't find work. I'm a frickin' electrical engineer and I can't find a job even doing technical writing right now, much less anything to do with computers.
Why? Because I don't program. There are all sorts of jobs out there for folks who can code. They need 5 years' experience in Oracle or Java or SQL or all of the above...but there is nothing for "mere" technicians. But I never was much of a programmer, and at age 37 I probably never will be. And anyway I learned a long time ago that I don't like writing programs, anyway. If I were you I'd start looking for some "displaced worker" funding and get some training in another field. The days of computer techs being able to command even $30k per year are over. Me, I'm going to be an MRI tech...that pays about $45k per year with benefits.... Ed |
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Even programmers are making less than 1/2 what they were 3 years ago. A programmer with 5 years could command 65k or more. I tried the displaced worker program.. no luck because of GSL late payments. They required it to be paid off before any more money was loand to me. There are SOME perminent IT jobs in the area but they are harder to get into than a bank vault after hours. I have the skills to do the job but there again I'm asking to much?? All I want it at the very least 10 per hr. [This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-12-2004).]
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BigBoyToys
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JUL 12, 10:27 PM
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Poor Bill........Fall off your MEDs????? [This message has been edited by BigBoyToys (edited 07-12-2004).]
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84Bill
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JUL 12, 11:53 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by BigBoyToys: Poor Bill........Fall off your MEDs????? |
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As if I have not had enough of your brand of medicine?
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Fastback 86
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JUL 13, 01:25 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by 84Bill: YES IT IS a problem.. nobody wants to HIRE me full time AKA "OUTSOURCED". Thats why I am a Computer CONSULTANT and not a Computer TECHNICIAN or FULL TIME employee making 45k a year with benefits. Soooo... Do you want to continue to question my credibility regarding what I KNOW about being an UNEMPLYED computer TECHNICIAN Or just spout off more meaning less barf from that piehole whilst resting up on high? |
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I require further clarification here. Perhaps a better definition of terms. You cannot find work as a Computer Technician, correct? Here's where I made need correction: Does a Computer Technician not service peoples computers? Is that not a hands on job? How is a Technicains job outsourced? Are they flying people over for a few days from India to fix a computer and go home? Are they Fed Ex'ing thier not working computers to India?
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lurker
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JUL 13, 01:37 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86: I require further clarification here. Perhaps a better definition of terms. You cannot find work as a Computer Technician, correct? Here's where I made need correction: Does a Computer Technician not service peoples computers? Is that not a hands on job? How is a Technicains job outsourced? Are they flying people over for a few days from India to fix a computer and go home? Are they Fed Ex'ing thier not working computers to India? |
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not that i want to put words in 84bill's mouth, but... much of Computer Tech Support happens over the phone. have you never called the Tech Support # and gotten some guy who is obviously still learning english? actually, some corporations DO ship computers to pakistan and india for service. I know this from personal experience. considering how many islamic fundamentalists there are over there, i fret about the data on some of those machines.
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Toddster
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JUL 13, 11:04 AM
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Bill, for someone who keeps screaming to "Cry you a Fricking River", you seem to be the only crying....and the only one who doesn't notice, that you are the only one crying... Technology has passed you by. So what else is new? If you don't maintain cutting edge education and skills then you will be relegated to the scrap heap of history. I'm 40 fricking years old and I am back in school. WHY? Because I do not intend to get left behind. Your VALUE as a human resource is determined by what you bring to the party. No one needs the skills you currently have anymore so why should they pay you for them? Make yourself NEEDED! Do that and you will find people THROWING money at you with both hands. That concept hasn't changed since the dawn of time. Why are you having such a tough time grasping it? Do we OWE you something? As for siting yourself as a "source" for the trade gap with India....well, you'll forgive me if I stick to my original conclusions based on emperical data from the WTO, EPI, and State Department. And I was refering to expatriate outsourcing, you know, from one country to another... As in, sending jobs offshore?!
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84Bill
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JUL 13, 11:20 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Toddster: Bill, for someone who keeps screaming to "Cry you a Fricking River", you seem to be the only crying....and the only one who doesn't notice, that you are the only one crying... Technology has passed you by. So what else is new? If you don't maintain cutting edge education and skills then you will be relegated to the scrap heap of history. I'm 40 fricking years old and I am back in school. WHY? Because I do not intend to get left behind. Your VALUE as a human resource is determined by what you bring to the party. No one needs the skills you currently have anymore so why should they pay you for them? Make yourself NEEDED! Do that and you will find people THROWING money at you with both hands. That concept hasn't changed since the dawn of time. Why are you having such a tough time grasping it? Do we OWE you something? As for siting yourself as a "source" for the trade gap with India....well, you'll forgive me if I stick to my original conclusions based on emperical data from the WTO, EPI, and State Department. And I was refering to expatriate outsourcing, you know, from one country to another... As in, sending jobs offshore?! |
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Wow.. you constantly discredit me.. Ok And I will stick to mine You are nothing but an arrogant selfish twit screaming garbage out of your piehole from the top of your ivory tower. I can also surmize that I'm Back was correct in calling you a toad because you refuse to climb down off that ivory toadstool.. I feel the need to get away from that mindless tongue of yours before you snatch me out of the air.. Ta ta Toddster. Sig check --------------- Beware of toads they live in the goldsfish pond!! [This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-13-2004).]
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Toddster
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JUL 13, 11:38 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by 84Bill: Wow.. you constantly discredit me..
Ok And I will stick to mine You are nothing but an arrogant selfish twit screaming garbage out of your piehole from the top of your ivory tower. I can also surmize that I'm Back was correct in calling you a toad because you refuse to climb down off that ivory toadstool.. I feel the need to get away from that mindless tongue of yours before you snatch me out of the air.. Ta ta Toddster. Sig check --------------- Beware of toads they live in the goldsfish pond!! |
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Why is it that whenever I present independent evidence from sources I have no influence over, and ask for independent evidence in support of some other claim, I get lambasted with name calling?  Oh well, back to the "ivory tower" where I work 10 hours a day for the honor of paying to keep my fellow countrymen alive.
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84Bill
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JUL 13, 11:51 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Toddster: Why is it that whenever I present independent evidence from sources I have no influence over, and ask for independent evidence in support of some other claim, I get lambasted with name calling? 
Oh well, back to the "ivory tower" where I work 10 hours a day for the honor of paying to keep my fellow countrymen alive. |
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Humm yes, my fault.. I should say it more like this. With all due respect Sir. You are nothing but an arrogant selfish twit screaming garbage out of your piehole from the top of your ivory tower. I can also surmize that I'm Back was correct in calling you a toad because you refuse to climb down off that ivory toadstool.. I feel the need to get away from that mindless tongue of yours before you snatch me out of the air.. Ta ta Toddster. Sig check --------------- Beware of toads they live in the goldsfish pond!! [This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-13-2004).]
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