END OF KIT CARS? (Page 24/60)
troyboy FEB 28, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by 85sliverGT:


The difference here is that nobody here is entering house shows, computer shows, food competitions, etc. Car shows are for showing off a car that you have customized right? When you enter a car show with a car you didnt touch a wrench to, where is the pride in that? Just showing off your money and other peoples work i guess?

I don't think i would ever build a replica for myself. Just not my thing, for a lot of the same reasons madcurl posts. The difference is i have a huge amount of respect for the people that build replica's. And huge amounts of respect for the people that build choptops and wide bodys. I have no respect for people who pay someone to build them a car, and have the balls to talk down on people who do the work themselves, just because they don't like the car. You dont like replicas...but cant you see the skill that goes into them? Isn't that something to respect?



try reading the post and tell me where you see me talking down about those who build their own cars, show me where you see me talking down about replicas?


** EDIT ** Thank you for you clarification

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troyboy FEB 28, 01:30 PM
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yellowstone FEB 28, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:

How do we separate the open pocket car owners vs the diyers?



Don't forget that people can be both. Between 2003 and 2008 I had access to a workshop in Germany that my uncle owned and did many things myself. Now I live in an apartment building in Miami and don't have much space or many tools at my disposal. Therefore anything bigger than tinkering has to be done by someone else (notably whodeanie). It's still me who decides what get's done, though, and that makes it MY vision. At some point the situation will change and I will be able to do more things on my own again.

So, am I "open pocket" or a DIYer?
TXGOOD FEB 28, 02:56 PM
I think that everyone has someone help them out with something.
As I get older, I would rather have someone else do some of the things that I have worked on in the past.
I mean, who likes to sand and fill and then sand again when using body filler to get a good finish.
When you are done, you can be proud of what you have accomplished but sometimes it`s hard to stay enthusiastic especially if you miss shows because of it.
I have been around a couple of people in years past who looked down on the DIY`er because maybe his project wasn`t as perfect as theirs, that they had paid dearly to get finished.
Those are the people I have a problem with.
I know a lot of people who don`t do any of their own work, but they are great people who acknowledge someones hard work.
Hey, in the end, we are all just Fiero lovers, whether we have the same opinion on who does and doesn`t do their own work.

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madcurl FEB 28, 04:21 PM
The word "builder" is loosely being applied for nobody has actually "build" anything. They have put together a "kit" using various components that were already made by various venders. Depending upon how accurate the vender is will determine how much involvement the owner will have in putting it together his kit car. However, as the pictures here have depicted most (if not all) venders have grossly deviated from the original car to which they've replicated (incorrect glass, Fiero roof, not lengthened-the list here is endless). If you factor in a a cheap buyer using incorrect wheels, brakes, interior-the end result is a lot worst.
TXGOOD FEB 28, 04:36 PM
I have to disagree with you here Madcurl because most "kits" are not what the name implies.
When you take on most kits, especially Lambo kits, you better have very deep pockets or be able to weld, run circuits, fabricate and figure out a hundred different things that the kit manufacturer didn`t quite supply.
They are far from just "put together" lego type builds.
Bloozberry FEB 28, 06:22 PM
Everywhere in the world except "In a van down by the Kern River":

Building = putting things together.
85sliverGT FEB 28, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by troyboy:


try reading the post and tell me where you see me talking down about those who build their own cars, show me where you see me talking down about replicas?



My post wasn't directed at you troyboy, im sorry if it came off that way. I should have made that clearer. My first line about your comment was it. The rest is just speaking generally.

I understand that not everyone has the desire to physically "build" (can i say that madcurl?) a car, or has the know-how, etc. That is understandable. What i don't think is appropriate is for anyone to put down someones car when clearly someone put a lot of time, work, money and effort into...especially someone who has never attempted themselves.

troyboy FEB 28, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by 85sliverGT:


My post wasn't directed at you troyboy, im sorry if it came off that way. I should have made that clearer. My first line about your comment was it. The rest is just speaking generally.

I understand that not everyone has the desire to physically "build" (can i say that madcurl?) a car, or has the know-how, etc. That is understandable. What i don't think is appropriate is for anyone to put down someones car when clearly someone put a lot of time, work, money and effort into...especially someone who has never attempted themselves.



Thank you for your clarification , older post will Edited
Bloozberry FEB 28, 07:24 PM
Deleted out of respect for two gentlemen.

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