V8 Archie Dyno Vid (Page 23/45)
WhiteDevil88 JUN 11, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by ambfiero:

Whitedevil88 thank you for your post as you now have added some great information to this thread as well, you should be just as proud of the rest of the sweet pickles gang. By the looks of your rating bar your really liked as well.



I've learned not to put too much stock in rating bars.

ryan.hess JUN 11, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by ambfiero:
I dont post a lot because well, because of threads just like this. Someone starts a thread with the intent of getting shi$ started, and then a bunch of people join in to bash someone who is a valuable member of the fiero community just because they dont like them. Only a few brave stand up to help and the bash continues on.



Go reread page 1. Everything was fine until Archie pushed the thread off a cliff with post 12. Here's what he COULD have said:

"The engine is actually a 305, and all of the other cars dyno'd that day read a little low too. We haven't been able to find out what the correction factor was on the dyno. I took the car back home and had it dynoed again. Here is that dyno: *insert graph*"

Instead, it's "Shaunbag nutswingers posting garbage again, You idiots are being used, blah blah blah, too scared to demand proof from him, he's laughing at you"

REAL mature way to handle that, I must say. And I still haven't seen this redyno graph, 6 pages later.

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ambfiero JUN 11, 06:48 PM
WhiteDevil88,

Dude I understand. Its not like I was doing it just to be a di**, I have just had enough of the bashing. I have watched for years and I have never attacked these guys on the forum. I cant stand them because they do it yet I never say a word. Well what if everyone starts bashing Archie, then Rodney Dickman, then the fiero store. Its not like our cars are the most popular out there people want to make fun of them and publicly bash them. What happens when they all close the doors, who will we turn to then?
I dont know these guys personaly, I dont know that I have seen the cars they drive, I do know most of them are pretty smart, but this bashing is just old and I for one just had enough. Then I asked Cliff to close it, its his forum so he can run it how he likes, but he said "as long as it stayed on topic it would stay open". Maybe that rubbed me the wrong way but i thought as long as it was worthless and cliff called it BS, I thought I could do the same to prove a point. Hey this will be the last post for me...... As they say the good guys finish last. So Ryan.hess, Will, joshua riedl, FastIndyFiero, crzyone, p8ntman442, thismanyfieros, Leafy, WhiteDevil88, and anyone else I left out. Bash away at archie because its acceptable.
DL10 JUN 11, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by ambfiero:

I dont post a lot because well, because of threads just like this. Someone starts a thread with the intent of getting shi$ started, and then a bunch of people join in to bash someone who is a valuable member of the fiero community just because they dont like them. Only a few brave stand up to help and the bash continues on.

You know how much my post piss you off, I feel the same way everytime I see this kind of crap go on. I bet if I was bashing archie it wouldnt be a big deal to you guys. Its a worthless thread so I have helped by posting a bunch of worthless crap. Dont get mad bud.

Now Cliff is posting that "I should consider the consequences"... what ever. At least I stand up for whats right. If you want to ban me for that then so be it. I asked you to close the thread because it was BS... You said it yourself in a email to me. I think its funny this is my "first offense and I am about to get banned, yet these guys start crap all the time and they are still here.




I don’t post that much myself……..your post don’t piss me off, I share your feelings. I applaud you for standing up for what you felt was wrong.
I don’t recall reading any of your previous posts before this thread, but you must be a pretty nice , helpful guy to have very green ratings bar with only 311 post. Don’t let these guys get to you.

WhiteDevil88 JUN 11, 06:58 PM
Show me where I bashed Archie in this thread. Please.

Personally I'm a little sick of the "Us vs Them" mentality that prevails whenever a discussion comes up, and I find that Archie has been one of the worst on PFF when it comes to namecalling and diverting the issue. I've stayed out of this thread, my only comment was wehen Archie made a claim that threads on RFT were deleted for his benefit. Since I am the moderator that archived those threads, I thought it might be important enough to clarify if he thought it was important enough to bring up. Sorry Archie.

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MstangsBware JUN 11, 06:59 PM
Man I go to sleep for 9 hours and wake up to 2 more pages of post made by the same member that has nothing to do with the Thread. I really see nothing wrong with this Thread and wouldnt really call it bashing anoyone. As far as the dyno run goes that Archie did, when running on group dyno runs, I have seen most the time, they are incorrect. I did a group dyno a while back and only put down 278 HP but took my car to the track and trapped 114 MPH. Of course I am not making excuses for anyone.
DL10 JUN 11, 06:59 PM
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ryan.hess JUN 11, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by ambfiero:
Bash away at archie because its acceptable.



So let me get this straight. It is unacceptable to criticize any fiero vendor? For any reason whatsoever, including if they treat people poorly?

Have you reread page 1 yet? I'm curious about your comments. Nobody was "bashing" archie until he made his post specifically calling people idiots, nutswingers, whatever else that brought the thread downhill quickly. He just came out swinging.
madcurl JUN 11, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by ryan.hess:


So let me get this straight. It is unacceptable to criticize any fiero vendor? For any reason whatsoever, including if they treat people poorly?

Have you reread page 1 yet? I'm curious about your comments. Nobody was "bashing" archie until he made his post specifically calling people idiots, nutswingers, whatever else that brought the thread downhill quickly. He just came out swinging.




Wasn't that the intentions of starting the thread in the first place, "To bash Archie"?

It states this right under the thread link------>From: c43ff69f
"More knuckledragging V8 action. WOW factor. Cletus hits the dyno with his 377 cubic inch v8 and almost blows the tires off in Daytona."


The "key" to starting this thread was too,
1. Cloaked Insurgents unite
2. Bash Archie.
3. Insurgents bored and have nothing else to do.

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ryan.hess JUN 11, 08:00 PM
The video was making fun of a weak V8, that Archie swapped. If Lloyd or anyone else had swapped a 4.9 that made 110whp, it would have ended exactly the same.

Except everyone would be screaming "stop bashing Lloyd!!" Although I'm sure Lloyd would have handled the criticism with more tact, but we'll never know.