Landscaper Under Fire for Refusing to Work for Gays (Page 22/65)
Boondawg NOV 13, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by whadeduck:

Seriously, is there something I don't know about Santa?




Yes, and you should keep it that way.
Even Santas got "PLAHA H8RS"!

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Red88FF NOV 13, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by JohnnyK:


Uhh, thats not indifference.. Far from it.. Thats sheer sickening ignorance.



You should leave the entire quote intact! but that would make it difficult to attack me wouldn't it. Now I am sickeningly ignorant for being willing to take any chances with a baby sitter for my grandchild and should ignore all statistics about pedophiles, give up MY RIGHT to free choice in the best interest of MY family because you do not think it's the PC thing to do? what a load of crap! next a group will threaten me and mine with death and sodomy for it.

Being willing to ignore their disgusting acts which I DO THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO BY THE WAY in every other aspect of my life and business is not enough? I HAVE TO LET THEM TUCK THE KIDS IN THEIR BEDS AT NIGHT TOO or be chastised as sickeningly ignorant? Jesus H Christ you are an F'ing moron.


fierofetish NOV 13, 02:47 PM
Boonie, it is not often that your posts stimulate me to reply to them and contradict them. But here I must
They will not be taught conformity to others' ideals and standards of what they should be. If one is responsible as a parent, they will be taught to conform to widely-accepted norms of behaviour, as peceived by the parents.The fact that those should resemble the general concensus of universal opinion is not a happy coincidence. It is a reflection of common sense in observing decent, moral and acceptable ways to behave in our World, which are readily available for ALL to see, and understand.And accept.
Mental and emotional slavery? Or a general, educated understanding that irritability and how it affects your way of life is critical to being HAPPY, and accepted.....of which the latter is undeniably the wish of most people, I would have thought?
As to the 'disownment', you are right. We are less and less demanding for the ostracisation of disruptive, rude, offensive and unsociable behaviour. And doesn't the resulting chaos spread unrest, dis-satisfaction, and worst of all, a deep resentment?Often resulting in conflict ,violence, and sometimes death.
I don't KNOW much about you, but I can make an educated guess, based on your (in my opinion, at least), welcome contributions here. You are a responsible, hardworking, compassionate Family man. It worries me that you choose to rattle the oppositions' sabre in support of that which directly contradicts my , perhaps erroneous, perception of your way of life.What is it in your life that prompts you to want to make waves on your own shore? Why are you discontent enough with your life to do so? IS there something about conforming to sensible and long-established rules for us ALL to be happy together, which impels you to take this stand you appear to be making?
This is not intended to be a personal attack on you, please believe me. I just want to understand this apparent contradiction in terms.
Nick
Edit to add: I gather from your posts that you admire, and support the Military to the hilt.In my opinion, your support is worthy.BUT.Could that be partly attributable to your subconscious admiration of the rules, regulations and established procedures that make the Military so organised and successful? The system would fall apart if there were no rules and regulations to adhere to Rather like our Society is rapidly disintegrating around us.



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Originally posted by Boondawg:


And taught conformity to other's ideals of what they should be.
Mental & emotional slavery.
Which I guess means any other way would require a "disownment".

Definitions of Disownment on the Web:

1. The involuntary termination of membership in a group, when a member of a group acts contrary to established discipline. Reasons for disownment have changed over time, often reflecting contemporary societal mores. Today, very few people are disowned.

2. Refusal to acknowledge as one's own.

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Finally_Mine_86_GT NOV 13, 03:03 PM
well my son is going to grow up living in a curch enviornment because my wifes family is a religious one. Now i see organized religion as cults... they bother me sevearly... why... because i know if i don't keep an open mind for my son he will just rebell against me when he is older. If he grows up and becomes gay... so what... it's his choice... but somebody will need a mop if he is ever harmed. Maybe it's just me but as i said before... i'm ok with the gays as long as they don't try anything with me... for the record Nick... i know your pain. been there, don't like to talk about it. there is a difference between a pedo and a gay person... a large one... i know two gay guys (thier a couple) they are really cool guys and they are respectful to me by not showing effection in front of me or my son. They are just as disgusted with pedo's as i am. a friend once told me and i believe him... "intolerance is the root to ignorance" on that note i have to agree with dennis miller on this one... "of course that's just my opinion, i could be wrong"

All you have to know about satan.... eh khem... damn typo's... sorry santa is that he will spread his toys even to the gay boys and girls this year.

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Formula88 NOV 13, 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by Red88FF:

Worth a repeat! The figure is something like 200 times more likely to molest than a hetro. It's simple math.
That said by no means does that mean that gays are ALL going to engage in that type of behavior, It is just a bajillion times more likely.
I know some gay folks that are pretty decent people but I can't help but think that if they think a gay act is ok what the hell else is going to be ok with them.





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Originally posted by Red88FF:

You should leave the entire quote intact! but that would make it difficult to attack me wouldn't it. Now I am sickeningly ignorant for being willing to take any chances with a baby sitter for my grandchild and should ignore all statistics about pedophiles, give up MY RIGHT to free choice in the best interest of MY family because you do not think it's the PC thing to do? what a load of crap! next a group will threaten me and mine with death and sodomy for it.




Please post a source for your statistics.

In the meantime, I'll provide you some of my own:

A 1998 article in the Journal of the American Medical Association notes one study that determined that 90 percent of pedophiles are men, and that 98 percent of these individuals are heterosexual.1

Two major studies that examined the sexual orientation of convicted child molesters found that less than 1% in one study and 0% in the other were lesbian or gay.2

The evidence is clear. Statistically, your kids are safer from sexual abuse with gays than straights. I'm not trying to change your opinion. You are entitled to hate or fear whoever you want, but don't make up statistics out of thin air as "proof" of your point of view. If you have evidence to support your statistics, please share them.


Sources:

1. Holmes, W.C. and Slap, G.B. (1998). "Sexual Abuse of Boys: Definition, Prevalence, Correlates, Sequelae and Management." Journal of the American Medical Association. 280 (21): 1855-1862.

2. A review of 352 medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse during a 12-month period at a Denver children's hospital found that less than 1% had been abused by a gay man or a lesbian. Of 269 adult perpetrators of child abuse identified among the 352 cases of abuse, only two were gay or lesbian. The vast majority of the children in the study (82%) "were suspected of being abused by a man or a woman who was, or had been, in a heterosexual relationship with a relative of the child." And the review concluded that in this sample, "a child's risk of being molested by his or her relative's heterosexual partner is over 100 times greater than [the risk of being molested] by someone who might be identifiable as being homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual." Jenny, C., & Roesler, T. A. (1994). Are children at risk for sexual abuse by homosexuals? Pediatrics, 94(1), 44. In an earlier study of convicted male child molesters in Massachusetts, none of the 175 men were found to have an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation or to be primary attracted to other adult men. Groth, A. N., & Birnbaum, H. J. (1978). Adult sexual orientation and attraction to underage persons. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 7(3), 175-181.

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F-I-E-R-O NOV 13, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Wha?
Great.
Next you'll be telling me something bad about Santa.
I CAN'T HEAR YOOOOOOOOOOOOOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
LA LA LA LA LA LAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



WHAT! Did you hear something? Is Santa OK? If you heard something, you better tell me!!!
Phranc NOV 13, 03:35 PM
Santa smokes pot. Thats why he eats so many friggin cookies.


And gay is not moral or immoral.
Formula88 NOV 13, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Phranc:

And gay is not moral or immoral.



That depends on your own moral compass. If you're Christian, the Bible tells you homosexuality is wrong.
If you're athiest, that wouldn't apply to your own interpretation of right and wrong.
JohnnyK NOV 13, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by isthiswhereiputausername?:


And you can be assured of this by what reasoning??

Reason my kids wont be gay is that they will know the difference between right and wrong, moral and immoral.




sorry, plenty of gays had a normal 'moral' upbringing while knowing whats 'right and wrong'.. What WILL happen is if they do turn out to be gay, they'd be ****ed up from their unsupportive parents.
84Bill NOV 13, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by isthiswhereiputausername?:
Reason my kids wont be gay is that they will know the difference between right and wrong, moral and immoral.



Wow.. just.... wow.