OK, so that would be the wine country run last year. At events, I don't care about political or philisophical differences, everyone is welcome. Even you. If that makes me a tool...oh, well. It is good to know who my friends are...and aren't.

No. No, you don't. Sitting at your computer all day and calling yourself a "consultant" is not working. GO GET A JOB.

No it isn't! It is MINE because I earned it and the fact that you feel you have a right to it by virtue of your unwillingness to come down off you high horse and take a job that is "beneath" you is what gauls me. I have never been achamed of ANY job I have had. I have been everything from a Builder to a State Manager and I consider any work to be good work. Having childred to feed puts things in perspective. Something you won't learn until you stop behaving like a child yourself and start being RESPONSIBLE for a few.

Mighty easy to cast dispersions at the people who are paying your bills for you isn't it Bill? Read my last post again. You said i lived in an Ivory Tower because I was out of touch with the amount of money people have since my car didn't sell. Only one problem with your little theory...the car sold dufus!

No. it would be the truckee event the year before, but who's counting?

"At events, I don't care about political or philisophical differences,"

That's a good plan. Except that as the president of Golden Gate Fieros, it extends beyond the events. You represent the club on here, at least you take it upon yourself to do so. If you constantly regurgitate what your extreme right wing buddy does and continue with the "yea what he said" posts, you're going to alienate a lot of people who would otherwise participate in the club.

I seem to remember you telling me Todd doesn't participate in any club events because of an "incident" a few years back. That's the kind of crap that can kill a club. If you're going to lead it, you can't take obvious sides.

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My point being

OUR government is ALLOWING jobs to be EXPORTED to INDIA by the thousands DAILY and those once high paying jobs are being replaced by low paying non benefit CRAP (ohhh wow!! I'm just thrilled I spent thousands on an IT diploma that I can now use to wipe my ass) AND is giving TRILLIONS of OUR TAX money to a bunch of nomads living in the desert known as IRAQ. IN addition BILLIONS of dollars to BLACKWATER & HALIBURTON to fund this little castle building playground in the sand.

And you want to piss and moan about me (a TAX PAYING AMERICAN CITIZEN) getting 142 dollars a MONTH of "everyones money" including the money I paid since 16?

CRY ME A FREAKIN RIVER TODD!

Your cries of foul play and greedy attitude toward your "fellow Americans" who are suffering this VERY DAY and by the multitudes of screams of my brothers and sisters in arms that have died in all the years the United States of America has existed and what it stands for are muted to a whimper.

I don't care what you think of me. I am a PROUD Amrican.. don't like it?? Well stop on by Toddster and bring guns and lots of ammo because a CIVIL war in this country will follow you right to my door.

1. Congrats on being mechanically inclined and licensed. I was talking about ANYONE who knows something about Fieros, not you in particular.

2. We agree. The Fiero is a space frame, theres no such thing as a "frame off" restoration.

3. How the bloody hell do you know its not a typo? Frame up, frame off...kinda close doncha think? Todd is a car guy. He's got 8 cars parked at his house and no, they're not all Fieros. Please explain to me how it is that you know for certain that he did not make a simple mistake and use the wrong phrase when he was typing up the synopsis. Frame up is a vaild term, as is frame off. Messing up one phrase is easy.

4. I know Todd better than you and I disagree with that assesment of his character.

Lets kick grandma and grandpa off SOCIAL SECURITY, revoke the MEDICADE and MEDICARE, kill off all those programs like "Head Start and close a few federally funded PARK / SCHOOLING programs for kids SO you wont have to piss and moan about giving away all OUR money..

Well fine Toddster, I'll go teach the kids about wildlife from my BACKYARD and do it for FREE!!

"I'm Back. 4 more negative in the last 12 hours. Keep up the good work."

First point, that's your measure of quality; votes. We see what happened almost 4 years ago with that, and we have enjoyed the fruits of the chimp's exploits. Sencondly, how do you know they're negative? Oh ya, they're your accounts.

"And do yourself a favor Ed, stop obsessing over me."

Immitation is the greatest form of flattery.....use your own original material.

"I am flattered that you find me so fascinating that you are willing to spend an entire Sunday looking at my auction records and comparing them to previous auctions, etc. but you really need to get that life we've been discussing."

Entire Saturday looking at 4 auctions when I've been EBAYing myself and was on that page already? You like to brag it up when it helps ... Ex: I'm Todd, I have a rare book site - http://www.rarebookonline.com/ ....and then backpedal when it's discovered there hasn't been a book sold through that site for a year, if ever. You can't have it both ways; bring in sources of reinforcement and then retract them when the walls fall in. Ex: I voted the 1980 Presidential Election .... and then: Oh, it was a mathematical error. See, bring it in, it's fair game for impeachment.

As for fascinating, in a way yes. Of course I found Dahmer facinating too, and Gacey, and all kinds of wierdos; we studied them in college. You are a compulsive liar, not that you mean to be one out of spite or hate, I just think it's a disorder in your personality.

"Oh BTW, The GT sold for $6000 and is being shipped to NY at the end of the week. I guess that blows away the "Ivory Tower" theory doesn't it?"

Hardly, Bill's point was that you live in a world of semi-exclusivity. Granted 6k isn't the world, but most people don't have it for expendable income in which they can buy toys. Still, it took qute a while to sell, that is if I'm not interacting with the Dr. Jeckel side of Todd, which is the compulsive liar.

"And I have another offer for $6500 from a local if I kill the first buyer's deal. Won't do it. I have honor."

(Grabs heart and leans head with envy toward Todd's greatness) You are a saint, aren't you?

"A concept you are not familiar with Ed so I won't bother trying to explain it."

What have I done that reasonably defines me as a person without honor? I don't expect a response.

"What we really are are the hard working Americans who pay the taxes that you are living on with your monthly welfare check."

(Plays national anthem as they vote out unemployment extensions and strike down medical reform for Americans) You are the thread in the fiber of America in a Rockwellian sense, Todd the great.

"So spend a little less time on the chat sites and go to work."

As Todd finishes his 12th volume this weekend.

"And don't give me any crap about not being able to find a job. They are all over the place for people willing to actually work."

Ya, just learn to ask if they want fries with that, or move to China with your job.

"I have honor." "...at least give me the courtesy of a reach around."

Hmmmmm, I can't help but to think of Clinton denying his affairs when I read this.

"Oh and since the start of this thread how many of you have read Clinton's book? Or should I ask how many of you can read?
"I have honor."

"1. Congrats on being mechanically inclined and licensed. I was talking about ANYONE who knows something about Fieros, not you in particular."

Ok, it seemed to be aimed at me. No prob.

"2. We agree. The Fiero is a space frame, theres no such thing as a "frame off" restoration."

"3. How the bloody hell do you know its not a typo? Frame up, frame off...kinda close doncha think?"

Because it is spelled correctly and it is a valid term. Close, but so is 'jack up' and jack off,' yet they have totally different meanings.

"Todd is a car guy."

Todd is a compulsive liar and a tool.

"He's got 8 cars parked at his house and no, they're not all Fieros."

Do the owners know where their cars are?

"Please explain to me how it is that you know for certain that he did not make a simple mistake and use the wrong phrase when he was typing up the synopsis."

Nothing is really for certain, but Todd tends to over-elaborate and embellish at every turn; sometimes he just out and out lies. There are plennty of examples I've given in the preceeding post or two.

"4. I know Todd better than you and I disagree with that assesment of his character."

That's fair, I'm sure you do know him well, whereas I know him only through here. I have noticed many flaws with his character here, and they're evident even in this thread.

"5. I said "The Topic At Hand." I said nothing about Clintons book because that is NOT the topic at hand. The topic at hand, at the time, was economics and the US fiscal situation."

That's cool, don't direct my posts and I won't direct yours. See, Todd posts such tall tails I could make a living impeaching the gross falacies that comprise them. He just squirms when he gets cornered in a lie though.

HA!!!
Ed just planted the right hooker!!