Typical Bush cheerleader. Its all about you.
Forget the debt that our children will have to pay off (those that arent used as expendable cannon fodder).
Forget the less fortunate. They can starve as long as you get a little tax cut.
Forget the grandkids that have to deal with a marginally inhabitable planet with few resources left and constant wars between the haves and the have nots.
Forget the fact that the middle class is soon to be just a memory.

Clodster got a tax cut!
Whoopee!!

(edited for spelling.)

Maybe if the tax breaks and employment opportunities were spread out equally you could sell your 400 mile car that actually has, "The odometer still reads 119k although everything on the car is new, ..." 119k miles on it. See, when money pools at the top it stagnates; when it goes to the bottom it gets circulated and America is a fun place to be.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2482464066&category=6419

Then you wouldn't have to drop it 1000$ without even selling it then.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2483472303&category=6419

More flaws in your reasoning are that, (A) you claim the economy is great, and, (B) you claim your car has everything new and is comparable to a 400 miler and therefore should/could be reclassified as new under California DMV policy which is likely true, but, (C) You can't sell it through the most prolific national marketing tool of all times, EBAY, for what you say it's worth. So where is the BS? Is it that your car is a pos? It looks nice to me, so I don't preliminarily subscribe to that. Or is it that the economy is just wonderful for the very few, crap for the masses, you know, the group that would be interested in buying your car? I think so.

Hell, the economy is so great that you can't even sell you cheaper car.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2483473970&category=6419

So you now list it again $500 cheaper..... ya, great economy

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2484256641&category=6419

Someone who knows anything about a Fiero, first and foremost that its a spaceframe assembly, would assume he meant "frame UP" and simply made a typo. Trying to make a typo into a point you can attack someone at in a coversation that is NOT about proper punctuation and/or grammar is just petty. Stick to the topic at hand.

**Edited to fix tags.

Humm a rather nicely constructed retort..

"Someone who knows anything about a Fiero, ..."

Ya, and I haven't owned them for 10+ years and rebuilt many Fiero engines. I don't have a N* in my garage with a Holly 900 control unit from CHRFAB. And I'm not an FAA licensed mechanic and inspector.....ya, I know nothing

"...first and foremost that its a spaceframe assembly, ..."

Which is my point, there is no such thing as a, "frame off" restoration.

"...would assume he meant "frame UP" and simply made a typo."

Thanks for speaking for him, he really needs a representative. It's not a typo because there is such a thing as a frame off restoration when referring to an older car that has a true frame, or, for instance, a truck. A typo would be to call it a, 'frame to up,' or an 'up-frame' restoration. But, "frame off" is a valid term used to describe taking the chasis off the frame and restoring both the frame and the chasis. The idea is that you can't fully access the frame with the chasis on it. There's a powder coating place in Phoenix that does a lot of bare chasis'. They do a sweet job - I've had a couple acft parts done there.

"Trying to make a typo into a point you can attack someone at in a coversation that is NOT about proper punctuation and/or grammar is just petty."

No, in case you haven't followed Todd, he stretches things, embellishes, lies, and contorts the facts to make himself look good. The best example of Todd's arguments is that he claims he must be right because he has a higher forum rating. So maybe you don't follow all of that. For example, Todd, in a political argument recently, claimed he voted in the 1980 Reagan election, when I know that I am older than he is and I was barely old enough to vote in that election. I called him on it and he continued to lie and then I found his birthdate that made him over a year too young. He finally conceded, but that's the kind of stuff Todd does. A great example of Todd is found in the EBAY ad where he claims the car has 400 miles. Truth is it's a fixed-up 119k miler.

"Stick to the topic at hand."

"If it wasn't Satan's, I mean Todd's car..."

.......

That's the real issue, isn't it? In this country, it *is* about "you." It's about personal freedom, responsibility, initiative, and the opportunity to make a better life for *yourself*. A lot of what I see from democrats is that they want to punish you for succeeding.

Put another way, Todd has a wife, kid, and a second one on the way. I'm Back criticized him for fixing up and selling a Fiero. Gee, Todd is taking his and his family's destiny into his own hands, putting his skills to work, earning himself a living, and adding value to the economy (not to mention getting yet *another* Fiero on the road). His reward here in O/T? Criticism. If that's not a typical socialist reaction, I don't know what is.

Ed does have a point however.

He made it clear (to me anyway) that this so called "prosperous situation" Todd is in has caused him to lower the price of the car he was selling.

Now Todd, living in the "ivory tower" can not see the fact that people HAVE NO MONEY to buy his car. Either that or people think fieros are a piece of crap and not worth the asking price.

SOOOOOO

The question is who has the more valid point... Well... I for one know I can not afford Todd's car BUT I could have about 2 to 4 years ago.

Anyone else want to take a crack at this WITHIN the context I have outlined?

1. Can you afford it NOW without much trouble?
AND
2. Could you have done so 2 to 4 years ago?

So for me it would be
1. No
2. Yes

So to me toddster is living in an "ivory tower".