28 dead (18 children) at an elementary school (Page 2/15)
Tytehead DEC 14, 03:01 PM
And if that was horrible enough - Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China

http://www.ctnow.com/sns-rt...1213,0,5848749.story

Maybe we are better off if everything ends on 12/21, cause if this is the new normal......
Purple86GT DEC 14, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by dsnover:


Animal scumbag shooter was enabled by the politicians, school policies, etc, who basically handed him a 'defenseless victim zone', A.K.A. 'Gun Free School Zone'. These animals KNOW they won't be stopped, since that sort of law only applies to the law abiding.

And already, there are calls for more gun control. IDIOTS. Double-down on FAILURE. Here's a clue: MURDER IS ALREADY ILLEGAL IN ALL 50 STATES! And somehow THAT didn't stop this whack-job.

Enough is enough. Train and arm some of the teachers, and this sort of thing won't happen, or at least the body count will be much lower. There's a reason criminals don't go into police stations to commit mass-murder. Or gun shows.




Oh for God sakes! Throwing more weapons at a problem solves nothing!

My kids school is locked down. You can't get in unless you are buzzed in and that only gets you into the lobby were you can speak to an administrator who then will call your child out or escort you in.

You know what.. F-this there is no common sence left in the world, just give your kids a gun while you are at it, they are probably as smart and as responsible as the other nutjobs running around with guns anyhow.
FriendGregory DEC 14, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by Pyrthian:
I do like the idea of schools requiring a minimum of 50% armed staff.



If you met some of the educator that I have known, you might say never mind. I had seen a lot of teachers lose it.
I know where we need to start employing returning Veterans. We need a good guy, bad ass, at every large gathering location. Could be a dual roll position or something.
Pyrthian DEC 14, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by FriendGregory:
If you met some of the educator that I have known, you might say never mind. I had seen a lot of teachers lose it.
I know where we need to start employing returning Veterans. We need a good guy, bad ass, at every large gathering location. Could be a dual roll position or something.



yes, part of why I like this so much.
raise the overall quality of the staff.
and, maybe even shift some of the sunshine bias from the education system.
dsnover DEC 14, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Purple86GT:
Oh for God sakes! Throwing more weapons at a problem solves nothing!

My kids school is locked down. You can't get in unless you are buzzed in and that only gets you into the lobby were you can speak to an administrator who then will call your child out or escort you in.

You know what.. F-this there is no common sence left in the world, just give your kids a gun while you are at it, they are probably as smart and as responsible as the other nutjobs running around with guns anyhow.



You realize that is the same policy that this particular school had, right?

Purple86GT DEC 14, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by dsnover:


You realize that is the same policy that this particular school had, right?




Really? where is that written?
87antuzzi DEC 14, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Purple86GT:
Oh for God sakes! Throwing more weapons at a problem solves nothing!

My kids school is locked down. You can't get in unless you are buzzed in and that only gets you into the lobby were you can speak to an administrator who then will call your child out or escort you in.

You know what.. F-this there is no common sence left in the world, just give your kids a gun while you are at it, they are probably as smart and as responsible as the other nutjobs running around with guns anyhow.



People are going to kill regardless, ask China last week when 22 kids were stabbed by a crazed man with a knife. If someone wants to kill someone else they don't even need a weapon, should we outlaw hands too? Metal detectors are all fine and dandy, now you have someone inside your school with a ceramic knife that is going to, you guessed it, kill people. OKC bombing, the dude used a Ryder truck filled with amonium nitrate and diesel fuel to level a block, lets outlaw Ryder trucks. An armed teacher would be an idea however in a time of panic your average school teacher will fail and could possibly make the situation worse. A combination of a closed facility, an armed SRO officer and a parent volunteer security watch couldn't hurt. Also, Ryan Lanza (the killer) went to his mothers classroom and shot her several times in the head. Even if there were armed staff the possibility of a stray bullet striking a pupil in a totally different classroom would be too high. People with guns are efficient at killing people, they are easy to learn and require little knowledge to operate them and be lethal, this is why they are chosen to kill with. Guns are not bad and I personally think the laws pertaining them should be more relaxed, assholes with guns ruin it for the rest of the responsible gun owners.
fierobear DEC 14, 03:32 PM
Yeah, that's what we need, more anti gun laws! Everyone knows that criminals will respect more laws!
Purple86GT DEC 14, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by fierobear:

Yeah, that's what we need, more anti gun laws! Everyone knows that criminals will respect more laws!




anti gun laws make people with guns stand out. when will you people get this?

Over here you carry a gun you got som explaining to do.
dsnover DEC 14, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Purple86GT:
Really? where is that written?



http://newyork.cbslocal.com...ew-safety-protocols/


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CBS 2 has obtained the letter sent home to parents describing the new safety protocols:

Dear Members of our Sandy Hook Family,

Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry. Visitors will still be required to report directly to the office and sign in. If our office staff does not recognize you, you will be required to show identification with a picture id. Please understand that with nearly 700 students and over 1000 parents representing 500 SHS families, most parents will be asked to show identification.

Doors will be locked at approximately 9:30 a.m. Any student arriving after that time must be walked into the building and signed in at the office. Before that time our regular drop-off procedures will be in place. I encourage all parents to have their children come to school and return home on the bus and to remain in school for the entire school day. The beginning and ending of our school day are also important instructional times and therefore we want all our students to reap the benefits of full participation in our program.

We need your help and cooperation for our system to work effectively. Our office staff is handling multiple tasks. Though they will work diligently to help you into the building as quickly as possible, there may be a short delay until someone can view you on the handset and allow you to come in electronically. There are times during the day when office personnel are on the telephone, addressing student concerns, or in the copy room; there are other times when only one person is in the front office. Please help our staff by identifying yourself and provide your child’s name.

Keep in mind we will be following our district guidelines which may need revision once we test the system.

Please know your involvement continues to be critical to our school’s effectiveness and your child’s success. We continue to encourage and value your presence in our classrooms and are counting on your cooperation with the implementation of this safety initiative.

Sincerely,

Mrs. Hochsprung