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| Sorry but i gotta ask, whats the story with Archie and Cletus? (Page 2/20) |
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Jake_Dragon
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JAN 07, 10:16 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Oreif:
Just ignore it.
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Best advice
Once the bodywork is done I will put up some more videos but no comments will be allowed. Win - Win
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Saxman
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JAN 07, 10:44 AM
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We can always hope for a sniper at Daytona. It should be an easy target...
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Pyrthian
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JAN 07, 11:33 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by TXGOOD: Why would people bash V-8 Fieros? I could see if someone were installing a motorcycle engine or similar in a Fiero and maybe pure enthusiasts might not really be into it but the Fiero people I have met have pretty open minds about upgrades to a Fiero and I think a V-8 can be considered a viable upgrade. |
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personal insecurties.
thats only reason I can think of to "bash" on someones engine choice. might as well "bash" on them for their favorite color. as if it matters.
the 350 is a favorite motor, and people have stuck it in just about anything with wheels. I would bet there is a wheelbarrow with a SBC in it.
I guess alot comes from when you show off your work on your Fiero to someone new - one of the first things to come out of their mouth is "I knew someone who had a Fiero with a 350 in it". and, from that point on - your work feels lessened. no matter what you say - your Fiero - even tho it probably is better & faster - is inferior in their eyes to that 350 Fiero.
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darkhorizon
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JAN 07, 11:39 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by TXGOOD:
Why would people bash V-8 Fieros? I could see if someone were installing a motorcycle engine or similar in a Fiero and maybe pure enthusiasts might not really be into it but the Fiero people I have met have pretty open minds about upgrades to a Fiero and I think a V-8 can be considered a viable upgrade. |
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People bash v8's, because they think it is the "ultimate" swap, not that it is a good motor swap, they push that its the only option that is the most economical and powerful. btw when we refer to v8, we usually mean v8 = SBC.
The facts are now, many v6's and non sbc swaps are availible that are much cheaper, powerful, more efficent, easier, and cheaper than v8's which means that on paper the v8 is not the only swap that can make your fiero run 13's. Another reason for this, is very poor performance measures are frequently reported by the owners of v8 swaps, and tris is commonly caused by poor setup which includes a funny exhaust setup archie offers.....
flame suit on
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TXGOOD
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JAN 07, 12:08 PM
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I like the look and sound of say a 3800SC engine in the Fiero and obviously it has more than enough power, but to the average home mechanic, which I will include myself in, after the initial outpour of money for the V-8 kit, from what I have seen and read you can build and upgrade a 350 GM motor a lot cheaper than a 3800SC. I know if you get a motor with lower mileage it will probably be ok but if something happens and you have to have any machine work or replace any parts on the 3800SC it looks like it would cost a fortune. A 350 GM can be built over and over again relatively cheap. Plus there are coutless resources for parts.
On another note, there are V-8s on everything. Check this out. http://www.compfused.com/directlink/154/[This message has been edited by TXGOOD (edited 01-07-2008).]
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FierociousGT
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JAN 07, 12:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by darkhorizon: People bash v8's, because they think it is the "ultimate" swap, not that it is a good motor swap, they push that its the only option that is the most economical and powerful. btw when we refer to v8, we usually mean v8 = SBC.
The facts are now, many v6's and non sbc swaps are availible that are much cheaper, powerful, more efficent, easier, and cheaper than v8's which means that on paper the v8 is not the only swap that can make your fiero run 13's. Another reason for this, is very poor performance measures are frequently reported by the owners of v8 swaps, and tris is commonly caused by poor setup which includes a funny exhaust setup archie offers.....
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Or really, so where is your shop and website offering engine & exhaust swaps if you can do it better?
nice chrome trash suit...
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Fino
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JAN 07, 12:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by darkhorizon:
People bash v8's, because they think it is the "ultimate" swap, not that it is a good motor swap, they push that its the only option that is the most economical and powerful. btw when we refer to v8, we usually mean v8 = SBC.
The facts are now, many v6's and non sbc swaps are availible that are much cheaper, powerful, more efficent, easier, and cheaper than v8's which means that on paper the v8 is not the only swap that can make your fiero run 13's. Another reason for this, is very poor performance measures are frequently reported by the owners of v8 swaps, and tris is commonly caused by poor setup which includes a funny exhaust setup archie offers.....
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I like the color blue and I don’t care what you think I always will. These kids that are bashing Archie were not even in diapers when Archie first installed a SBC into a Fiero in April 1986. I REALLY do not think the popularity of the Fiero would be what it is today if Archie did not do what he done. All the aftermarket parts and accessories came after Archie brought the Fiero to the front. To BASH Archie about his V8 swap is about as dumb as I can think. The next think that will be popular will be bashing Hulki Aldikacti. Go for it!!
Ed[This message has been edited by Fino (edited 01-07-2008).]
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Saxman
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JAN 07, 12:54 PM
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What ever happened to "let your work do the talking?" If I talked trash about how fast my cars were, I'd expect this, but I just enjoy my rides - and even help others show off their hard work through the E-zine. I know it's not Car and Driver, but it's still fun.
He'll just keep shoveling proof of why he is despised. Even if what he says about his faster-than-everyone V6 is true, who cares? All I care about is if the owners are having fun. It may be time to shut up and let his work do the talking because nobody is listening anymore.
I guess you're either part of the problem with people in the world today, or part of the solution. It will be nice when that life-changing event (be it maturity or wisdom)happens to him and he treats his fellow man a little better.
One the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing it happen a little quicker with that sniper in Daytona, either (yes - I'm still a bit immature when it comes to dealing with the dredges of society - but I also think people can change. It's happened before )
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josef644
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JAN 07, 01:14 PM
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Hey Saxman, is that Bill Clinton playing on the sax? HAHA! Guys it's time for a breather. Joe
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Saxman
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JAN 07, 01:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by josef644: Hey Saxman, is that Bill Clinton playing on the sax? HAHA! Guys it's time for a breather. Joe |
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No, this is the shot of him

I got to play sax with him when I was stationed in Germany. The guy is actually pretty good!
True - breather time is good for everyone...
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