quote Originally posted by mysticfire6602: i own a 92 gsx. first thing, if you saw a fart can at the back, it probably wasnt an upgraded exhaust, just a fart can, which will **** up the power of the turbo. they do come from the factory with a BOV, but if you heard it very loud then he is probably venting it into the atmosphere just so he can get that loud sound, which will SERIOUSLY take a **** on its performance. why did he shut down? gsx's didnt have any engine cut off. judging from your "race," the guy driving has no ****ing clue how to tune a dsm and just thought that any old awd turbo is fast. if he left it stock there is no doubt in my mind that he would have beaten you, but he obviously sounds like a ricer trying to make it sound loud and venting his BOV. just another example of why trying to be cool actualy makes you stupid www.dsmtuners.com

Dude?... You need to get your facts straight. I had a 92 Laser RS AWD that ran in the 12's. First off ANYTHING you can do to free up exhaust flow will HELP the turbo. That includes a "fart can". Although you SHOULD go with a full exhaust. I had a 3" turbo back. Second you CAN vent your BOV to the atmosphere... It will screw with your fuel mixture though because the mas sensor is a draw through style and the stock BOV vents back in AFTER the mas. The only real way to correct that is get a FLOW through style one from a GM V8 and put a signal converter on it. The stock 2nd gen BOVs were JUNK from the factory... the 1g ones could be CRUSHED so they wouldnt leak and then could be vented to atmosphere without drawing in un-metered air. Aftermarket ones have stronger springs but its a toss up.... Either spring is too strong and on low boost throttle closures the BOV wont open and youll get a pressure surge against the turbo... Not pretty sounding (had that problem with my Turbo XS RFL) OR youll get a weake spring and under low throttle or constant throttle (but no/low boost) bov will open some and let in un-metered air (like stock DSM BOV),
Also GSX's and ALL DSMs DID have engine shut downs... per-se. Called FUEL CUT. When you draw in so much air (by modding, or adding boost) you actually run OFF the fuel map in the PCM. This is done on purpous to save engine from overboosting... Running off fuel map causes the PCM to fire 0 pulse to the injectors, turning them OFF. When your air intake dropped back into the fuel map your back in business. Was av VERY VIOLENT surge of power. When i found mine in my Laser (buschur big 16g) the power went away 100% then a second later came back on FULL FORCE. Like getting rear ended by an 18 wheeler.
Just ask Fieromaster88... He has been in the laser!!
So if your going to sit there and BASH some "ricer" maybe you should get YOUR facts straight. Your no better then the "ricer" by assuming MstangsBware's Fiero is stock! Spitting mis-information and assuming things makes it look like its not the "ricer" who is trying to sound cool but actually making himself stupid.

Sorry but this partial vent from me comes because im sick of people TRASHING others when they either dont know what their talking about OR dont have the facts straight.


MstangsBware - good to see your up and running... is that the same engine you were posting pics of in my thread? Got any vids or anything of that beast? Great Kill!

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