The economy, is it good or bad. (Page 19/181)
Phranc AUG 08, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by ditch:
I would hope there is some proof. Otherwise, I'll have to assume the people I'm talking to are making up facts and therefore....aren't worth listening to....which of course brings every statement they make into question




Yeah thats about the gist of things. bill and 84fiero hate Toddster and will make fallacious claims against him. Just the fact they call him turd should tip off they are invested in smearing him even more.
84Bill AUG 08, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by Phranc:
Cry rant complain. bill and 84fiero hate cry rant rant make fallacious claims cry. Just the fact cry turd should tip stomp feet off cry rant are invested in smearing hate cry rant blubber pop flip flop Snip: .



Yeah but he's my Turd and I like the guy so go get your own Turd to play with.
Phranc AUG 08, 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:


Yeah but he's my Turd and I like the guy so go get your own Turd to play with.



But bill you are my turd. Well not mine mine as I crap piles smarter them you.
84Bill AUG 08, 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by Phranc:


But bill you are my turd. Well not mine mine as I crap piles smarter them you.



Yeah... I can see that... Yeah... Ya know Phranc? I wonder what Sigmond would say right about now. Hummm....
ditch AUG 08, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by Phranc:


But bill you are my turd. Well not mine mine as I crap piles smarter them you.



ah yes, another statement from a brilliant mind....and the spelling/grammar is marvelous....you must be a $10+/hour worker

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84Bill AUG 08, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by ditch:
ah yes, another statement from a brilliant mind....and the spelling/grammar is marvelous....you must be a $10+/hour worker



Well.. ya gotta give the 30+ year olds some slack. For example I mispelled Sigmund.. ::shruggs:: What can I say.. the mind is a terra.. teri..terro... it's bad okay?
Pyrthian AUG 08, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:
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Believe it on not there was a time where one person could make the mortgage payment and bills with ease but now the requirement is such that both must have full time jobs in order to make it
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when was this?
if I remember them days - it was you had to save your money to have have a pretty hefty down payment before you would even be considered for a loan.

kinda made sure the person applying was actually serious & capable. most people cant even handle a credit card - so how they gonna handle a mortgage? and even worse - the bill consalidation loan, which rounds up all the unsecured credit cards & then ties them to the house. yes, the monthly payment goes down. but guess what? it now last the rest of your life, and if you screw up - you lose your house! as unsecured credit cards - you can basicly walk away. all that happens is you dont get any more credit cards. oh no.
Phranc AUG 08, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by ditch:


ah yes, another statement from a brilliant mind....and the spelling/grammar is marvelous....you must be a $10+/hour worker




Considering nothing in what you quoted was misspelled whats your point? And I am a brilliant mind. Thank you. But please keep trying to make me look bad. You'll wind up like bill, a failure.



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Originally posted by 84Bill:


Well.. ya gotta give the 30+ year olds some slack. For example I mispelled Sigmund.. ::shruggs:: What can I say.. the mind is a terra.. teri..terro... it's bad okay?



bill you misspelled "mispelled". You misspell most of your words and half the time they aren't even the right words. Remember "waif". What is a waif bill? It has nothing to do with age bill you're just an idiot.
aceman AUG 08, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:


Believe it on not there was a time where one person could make the mortgage payment and bills with ease but now the requirement is such that both must have full time jobs in order to make it.



Well, thanks, Bill, I must be "living the dream". For the past 8 years my wife has been staying at home with the kids and I've been payng the mortgage all on my income. We've made it. There has been rough times, but we made it. Now to get this house in the Twin Cities sold (Not going to be easy) and then the payoff begins with buying a house in a smaller, lower cost of living, soft housing market. A pay raise for me in the spring and my wife going back to her old job.

It's not job outsourcing. It's call financial responsibility. Too many idiots went out there getting mortgages that they never could afford. Too many idiots in the lending business allowing the risk. I was approved for a loan of just over $110K 8 years ago. $110K didn't buy much around here 8 years ago. Paying a $1,000 /month mortgage wasn't easy, but with some responsibility, you learn to pay it every month. I've watched over the 8 years many people say they want to buy my house. Sorry, they couldn't afford my house.

I do feel the mortgage companies are 50% to blame in this mess. I don't feel sorry for those companies going belly up. I also don't feel sorry for someone losing their house because they weren't responsible enough to pay the mortgage. The overwhelming majority of these guys didn't lose their house to outsourcing. They lost their house to stupid financial moves and a lack of responsibility. Perhaps the truthful bottom line is......They weren't ready to be home owners to begin with.

Pyrthian AUG 08, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by aceman:
.....good stuff....


I do feel the mortgage companies are 50% to blame in this mess. I don't feel sorry for those companies going belly up. I also don't feel sorry for someone losing their house because they weren't responsible enough to pay the mortgage. The overwhelming majority of these guys didn't lose their house to outsourcing. They lost their house to stupid financial moves and a lack of responsibility. Perhaps the truthful bottom line is......They weren't ready to be home owners to begin with.



Detroit is completely desolate due to outsourcing.
I myself was waiting for my daughter to finish High School - which she just did - and I am outta here.
I like Michigan - but - there be no work. if there be no work - there be no mortage being payed. so, how does outsourcing NOT cause this? how does lifting up foriegners over americans help?