I have had enough of this. (Page 18/22)
Patrick AUG 08, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by fierobear:

Threads evolve and wander.



Sure, and then there are enjoyable threads like the Mars one where out of the blue in the 39th post, you feel a need to put your stamp of disapproval on Obama.


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Originally posted by fierobear in This thread:

If ANY government spending stimulates and does good, it's space exploration. All we got from Obama's stimulus was his paying back unions and cronies.




You can be a nice enough guy when you're talking about something other than the US government. I've had fun kidding around with you about the Sharks and the Canucks, but by gawd you're a pain in the ass when it comes to you wanting to "share" your views on politics.
tbone42 AUG 08, 02:03 AM
Nick.. I have a 3 step plan for your happiness on Pennock's Fiero Forum..

1) Click "off" politics and then sign off so it saves it that way.
2)Ignore posts by those you think to be "trolls" for as we know, if you feed them they keep coming back hungry.. just like stray cats or ungrateful teenagers.
3) Post about things that are a joy to you, and leave the rest at the curb. Seriously, we expose ourselves to their attacks by meeting them in the circle they choose. Do you really think you will change anyone's mind with your opinion on politics, or they change yours? No? Then why bother?

Now, every once in a while, you may see your topic get re-routed to a nearby "bridge" but that does not mean you have to bring a dish with a lid..take the high road and don't give those smug pricks the satisfaction. You know who they are, and its likely I believe most of them aren't worth a **** , either. Its a pleasure to be here, because of people I have met like you. Don't let the shallow end ruin all your fun while swimming around the pool.

fierobear AUG 08, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
Sure, and then there are enjoyable threads like the Mars one where out of the blue in the 39th post, you feel a need to put your stamp of disapproval on Obama.



I wasn't the first to introduce politics, Formula88 did with the stimulus numbers. I wouldn't have said anything about it otherwise. I found the comparison very interesting.


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You can be a nice enough guy when you're talking about something other than the US government. I've had fun kidding around with you about the Sharks and the Canucks, but by gawd you're a pain in the ass when it comes to you wanting to "share" your views on politics.



I really don't give a crap if people think I'm a pain in the ass on politics. My country is in danger of collapse. I take that very f***ing serious. If people don't wake the hell up, they're going to wake up some morning and their country will be collapsed.
Patrick AUG 08, 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by fierobear:

I wasn't the first to introduce politics, Formula88 did with the stimulus numbers. I wouldn't have said anything about it otherwise. I found the comparison very interesting.



Read what Formula88 said about that. He made it clear he wasn't talking politics at all. You took it that direction.


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Originally posted by fierobear:

I really don't give a crap if people think I'm a pain in the ass on politics. My country is in danger of collapse. I take that very f***ing serious. If people don't wake the hell up, they're going to wake up some morning and their country will be collapsed.



News flash for Fierobear - Nothing you say in an international automotive forum on the internet is going to make a damn bit of difference regarding the destiny of your country. You and everyone else here who chooses to engage in this activity are just blowing smoke.
buddycraigg AUG 08, 03:26 AM
Nick.
stop being a cry baby.

take a blue pill and go have some fun away from the computer.
fierobear AUG 08, 03:28 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
Read what Formula88 said about that. He made it clear he wasn't talking politics at all. You took it that direction.



IT DOESN'T MATTER. It was relevant, and it was *already* political.


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News flash for Fierobear - Nothing you say in an international automotive forum on the internet is going to make a damn bit of difference regarding the destiny of your country. You and everyone else here who chooses to engage in this activity are just blowing smoke.



News flash for Patrick...I'm taking the message of concern to multiple arenas. You make a false assumption that this is the ONLY place I'm taking action.
fierofetish AUG 08, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by fierobear:


Then how do you get a point across in a debate? I post articles to support my position and/or offer proof. Otherwise, it is nothing but opinion.


Good morning everyone
John, I was referring to Avengador 1, not you .
Funny!! I see the trolls emerging, and asking 'what are trolls'?

fierofetish AUG 08, 06:12 AM

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Originally posted by tbone42:

Nick.. I have a 3 step plan for your happiness on Pennock's Fiero Forum..

1) Click "off" politics and then sign off so it saves it that way.
2)Ignore posts by those you think to be "trolls" for as we know, if you feed them they keep coming back hungry.. just like stray cats or ungrateful teenagers.
3) Post about things that are a joy to you, and leave the rest at the curb. Seriously, we expose ourselves to their attacks by meeting them in the circle they choose. Do you really think you will change anyone's mind with your opinion on politics, or they change yours? No? Then why bother?

Now, every once in a while, you may see your topic get re-routed to a nearby "bridge" but that does not mean you have to bring a dish with a lid..take the high road and don't give those smug pricks the satisfaction. You know who they are, and its likely I believe most of them aren't worth a **** , either. Its a pleasure to be here, because of people I have met like you. Don't let the shallow end ruin all your fun while swimming around the pool.


Thanks Ted The Voice of reason .
fierofetish AUG 08, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by fierobear:


Then why are you reading it?



John. You are very outspoken about your Political views. But you DON'T troll, as far as I have seen, and that is fine,IMHO.
You ask how is one meant to substantiate a political statement, other than linking to somebody else's words? Well, I will SHARE with you what I think. An opinion will stand, or fall, upon its own merit, when considered by somebody else: somebody else who is equally intelligent, equally 'Worldly-wise', and having experienced life at a level somewhat higher than chugging along on the 'safe and easy' level .
Seriously, I consider ANYBODY'S opinion here, and judge it on its merits AS I SEE THEM. After all, that is what we ALL do, in the end.
Posting links to other peoples' words again in MY honest opinion, simply doesn't enhance YOUR opinion in my eyes; it just demonstrates that there are other people out there who think like yourself...and equally other people out there who think as I do. And, to be honest...we ALL know what is coming when we see the link
Hey, I know it is mentally stimulating to get a little 'overheated' at times, no matter what the subject . But surely you demonstrate that your belief in how you think and work, is strong enough without copying and pasting other words to 'back you up'? Why show that, inside, your beliefs are not strong enough to stand on their own merit? Because it seems to ME that 'copy and pastes' are just that; not corroboration, just another cumbersome bag of unneccessary luggage on a 'mental' journey, if you like. They don't enhance your view or opinion, and the more those links appear...the less I am interested on the poster's OWN opinion, which is sad.

Change tack a little, but illustrates how my mind works
E.Furgal. Been here since March, and already has an enormous red bar. Why? Hey, I gave him a green, because his honesty was displayed from day 1. I 'demoted' that rating for a day or so, and considered him more. I suddenly saw so much integrity in his beliefs, whether I agreed with them or not; No copy and pastes to 'back him up', just plain, (very ) raw words. I admire that MORE in a person than all the rhetoric and 'hrvested to back up opinion' links anybody could ever find.
I also think that he mainly posts from a cellphone, and doesn't 'proof-read' his posts before hitting 'submit'. I don't buy into the 'dyslexia' thing very much at all I think most instances are laziness...not really caring if the spelling or grammar etc are not correct: he still manages to get his point across. I hope he doesn't get banished, AFAIAC..bit rough and dready, raw around the edges...but that CAN be refreshing too .
Just wish he would share his first name

Anyway, I am going to enjoy my morning, and go to the local swimming pool with my wife, have a relaxing swim, get a bit of sun...and I hope everybody else will be as fulfilled as I will be for the rest of the day
maryjane AUG 08, 11:50 AM
I'm gonna go try out my new Hypo Hatchets on some hated trees. I bought 6 of them in North Texas for $100 total over the weekend. (they sell new for nearly $400 ea)

Bought a 275 gal tank yesterday for less than $100, and I'm going to start building a bigger herbicide spray unit with it.
(Where Don goes, nothin grows. )

Ooops--sorry for hijacking your thread Nick--feel free to have a hissy fit at your own convenience.

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