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CertifiedMechanic
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NOV 02, 06:32 PM
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Sean, is trigger to much of a pussy to reply himself? Your an idiot as much as him. And you quoting everything that i typed isn't proving anything. Your just repeating what i typed and adding unnecessary info. And not always the correct info.
"you need to have a lot more fuel pressure in a turbo setup" this has what to do with a turbo being an easier install then a engine swap? This is like your last post. Going on and on about nothing. Or your other post where you start discussing two valves vs four valves. So what? This has what to do with trigger being an idiot? They didn't just invent four valves yesterday, so why are you bragging about it? Or are you avoiding the point your lover is a moron? Let trigger reply. Or are you the one thats wearing the pants in the relationship. Your replies are pointless. Adding unnecessary facts which have nothing to do with "YOU" Because my posts are for Trigger, not "SEAN" If you like, i can waste my time and point out your an idiot just as much as he is. But im still waiting for your lover who cant fix his own car but claims hes a mechanic to respond back. [This message has been edited by CertifiedMechanic (edited 11-02-2004).]
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trigger
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NOV 02, 06:39 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by trigger: way to dig up 5 year old posts. i made the majority of those when i was 14. yeah, since racing on the highway almost relates to a 12 sec bike. gearing and top end mr engineer. i'll tell you what. maybe after work i'll tear that back apart. i think you should just put up or shut up. you still haven't told us what kind of fiero you drive. sean and i have both offered to race you, and i have offered money. if we don't know how to tune, like you accuse us of, you should have no problem beating us, not? step the f*ck up or shut up. |
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i did reply. the fiero hasn't had a wrench touch it in two years. its not due to me not knowing how, its due to me not being willing to spend the money on it. i wrote the majority of those posts when i was 14 years old. wti is one of the top ranked technical colleges in the nation. im sorry you feel burnt because you got an engineering degree that involved using legos as mock ups. the offer stands, the money is on the table. put up or shut up. ------------------ 88 fiero coupe. 2.8/5 spd (last driven sept 02) 90 eclipse. 4g63t, the replacement for displacement
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CertifiedMechanic
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NOV 02, 06:51 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by trigger: way to dig up 5 year old posts. i made the majority of those when i was 14. yeah, since racing on the highway almost relates to a 12 sec bike. gearing and top end mr engineer. i'll tell you what. maybe after work i'll tear that back apart. i think you should just put up or shut up. you still haven't told us what kind of fiero you drive. sean and i have both offered to race you, and i have offered money. if we don't know how to tune, like you accuse us of, you should have no problem beating us, not? step the f*ck up or shut up. |
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nice comeback. boohoo i was 14 years old. And i thought the fiero forum search function doesn't search by screennames? Maybe you need to be smarter then a monkey to figure it out. LOL And 14 even doesn't compute. Means you dropped out to take 3 classes at wyoming. And you didn't get a refund when they didn't discuss turbos. Wheres you crying how you work on cars for a living with all these experience. Anyone who installed a 3800,v8, northstar,..... swap knows more about cars then you do. poor excuse with the motorcycle
Your quote in my words "a motorcycle cant hardly keep up with a "stock" car" i wonder when that started happening when a motorcycle can out accelerate a car. did you forget all about weight/hp ratios? I have a red fiero. Satisfied.
I dont need your money. Your only making 7 dollars an hour and i dont want them to repo your trailer home. Let me go out and modify my fiero to race you. No matter if i win or lose, your still going to be a half ass wanna be mechanic. Oh, ya your a ricer. Illegal street drag racing is whats kewl and proves ricers are fast. LOL " if i beat mechanic in a race, now i can go home with the money i won, and pay someone to fix my fiero" trigger has on his mind.....
LOL you two guys are a joke.
I bet Seans gonna reply again when im speaking to trigger again. LOL I bet hes going to go off topic about motorcycles and how they have four valves.
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Sean4852
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NOV 02, 07:48 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: Sean, is trigger to much of a pussy to reply himself?
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No, he was at work while i was posting.
| quote | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: Your an idiot as much as him. And you quoting everything that i typed isn't proving anything. Your just repeating what i typed and adding unnecessary info. And not always the correct info.
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What info is unecesarry? What info is not correct? If you think you are right then ****in prove it. Tell me what information I have provided is incorrect because I know it isn't. Also I am not repeating what you are typeing, I am being forced to repeat what I am saying because your too thick headed to understand that when the answer you give is wrong it is wrong regardless of if you have a fancy degree or not. You are also too much of a pussy to say anything to anyones face or take either of us up on our offers to race and my offer to kick your ass. Nobody said it would be a street race although thats what this thread was originally about.
| quote | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: "you need to have a lot more fuel pressure in a turbo setup"
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Why didnt you directly quote me? Oh thats right, because I didnt ****in say that. Again you are putting words in my mouth because you have nothing to go on because I am right and you are wrong. I said you need a fpr that raises fuel pressure one to one with boost, not that you need alot of it. If you would have any concept as to pressure differential accross an injector you would know that if you have a base fuel pressure of say 40psi and then try and run say 20psi of boost without raising fuel pressure 20psi you only have a pressure differential accross the injector of 20psi. Uh oh, run lean and melt the piston. Lets blame it on poor engineering on the part of the manufacturer and not our own stupidity...
| quote | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: Or your other post where you start discussing two valves vs four valves. So what? This has what to do with trigger being an idiot? They didn't just invent four valves yesterday, so why are you bragging about it? Or are you avoiding the point your lover is a moron?
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What do you mean what am I bragging about? I'm not bragging about **** , you said "Isn't yoru car created by some dumb engineer because he is just reinventing the wheel. Putting back an unefficient gasoline engine in a car?" and I said that all gasoline engines are innefficient and that if anyone is putting an innefficient engine in there car it isn't the person designing 4cly cars to get more fuel economy and more power from a smaller engine its someone using an innefficient v8 where as the people with the quad 4's and such are choosing an engine that makes more power with less displacement by being better at making power instead of making up for its innefficiency in pure size.Since you will never step up and say anything like that in person (despite my several offers to try and challenge me in person) since your obviously just a little coward with a degree i'm not even going to bother with it anymore.
| quote | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: I bet Seans gonna reply again when im speaking to trigger again. LOL I bet hes going to go off topic about motorcycles and how they have four valves.
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Off topic? You said the engine in my car is inefficient. I proved you wrong, you are the one who said it was inefficient in the first place. If you wouldn't have said that I wouldn't have posted about 4v/cylinder so if anyone is trying to go off topic its you. You seem to be avoiding alot of the statements I make in my posts, I have made a solid rebuttal for every point you have brought up. After I prove you wrong you seem to want to drop the subject, perhaps it is because I am providing evidence behind my claims and you aren't?
| quote | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: Well, sean has the same knowledge as those engineers that cant install a light bulb. Hes your friend, help him out.
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| quote | Originally posted by Sean4852: I dont need any ****in help from anybody. You pretty much flat out called me stupid now why dont you walk your ass over here since you apparnatly dont have a car worth mentioning and say it to my face so I can kick the **** out of you.
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Didnt say anything about this? You call someone stupid and then back down right away like a pussy and hide behind the anyonemity of the internet, how did you ever make it through hs, oh wait, did you even make it through hs?!?! ------------------
 There is no replacement for: AWD, high rpm's and very very big turbo's
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Kohburn
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NOV 02, 07:51 PM
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CertifiedMechanic
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NOV 02, 08:05 PM
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Sean, still wearing the pants for trigger. why are you discussing turbos? Because you keep repeating yourself about turbo swaps for the last day. And it still takes less time to put a turbo on a car then an engine swap. Therefore triggers wrong again.
I can put a turbo on a carb vehicle and do it within a day. No reasearch at all. I can run it at 2psi of boost. It has a turbo. Not all turbos need oil and coolant feeds. Any experience welder can fab up a custom manifold for the turbo within a day. I can put a turbo on a fuel injection vehicle. Leave it all stock because im only going to run it with 2-5psi of boost with no intercooler. It still is going to take less time then an engine swap. All gasoline engines are unefficient. No matter if its overhead cam, four valve design, rotory etc.... they are all unefficient. So whats your point?
Keep posting, because your look as bad as trigger and his "flip flopping" is showing with you too. "your educated engineer, no you dont know anything. ....... make up your mind. oh you have no experience but my 14 year old boyfriend does. 
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FastIndyFiero
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NOV 02, 08:16 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: Keep posting |
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No...Please, no...
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Sean4852
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NOV 02, 08:39 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: Sean, still wearing the pants for trigger.
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Trigger is not here right now, I am, therefore I am posting. He will post when he gets back from his normal life, I have the day off and have nothing better to do than prove that you are wrong.
| quote | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: I can put a turbo on a carb vehicle and do it within a day. No reasearch at all. I can run it at 2psi of boost. It has a turbo. Not all turbos need oil and coolant feeds. Any experience welder can fab up a custom manifold for the turbo within a day. I can put a turbo on a fuel injection vehicle. Leave it all stock because im only going to run it with 2-5psi of boost with no intercooler. It still is going to take less time then an engine swap.
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Sure you can do it in a day, but will it last over the weekend? Are you getting the most power out of it you possibly could? I could put a v8 in a fiero with zip ties and duct tape but that doesn't mean its gonna last. If your just doin it for shits and giggles and dont really care what happens to the engine I suppose the turbo swap could be done faster than an engine swap but if you acctually take any pride in your work and might want to be able to rely on the car to get you back and forth to work and still have the power to go bust out some nice times at the track its going to take more than 2-5psi w/o an ic and on nt internals. As well as significantly more than a day's worth of work.
| quote | Originally posted by Sean4852: Most people are going to use a wet cartridge so the turbo is going to require a coolant feed and return and oil feed and return at the correct pressures.
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Dry cartridge turbo's are a bad idea unless you have a very good oil cooler IMO, if you try to run without an oil cooler on a dry cartridge you are probobly causing the oil to break down and eventually will lead to poor lubrication, low oil pressure and ultimatly engine failure. Again if you dont want it to last then its fine but if you do something like that you shouldn't be blaming the manufacturer for creating a shitty engine if you dont do stuff the correct way and not halfassing everything.
| quote | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: All gasoline engines are unefficient. No matter if its overhead cam, four valve design, rotory etc.... they are all unefficient. So whats your point?
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I already said that... I guess i should have worded my post differntly instead of saying "You said the engine in my car is inefficient. I proved you wrong" it should have read more "You said the engine in my car is innefficient, I proved it is more efficient than the v8 engines you keep supporting" or something to that affect. I apoligize for the poor wording. If you think then engineers making these cars are stupid for putting gasoline engines back in though why aren't you helping to design the new hydrogen electric hybrid car or something?
| quote | Originally posted by CertifiedMechanic: Your an idiot as much as him. And you quoting everything that i typed isn't proving anything. Your just repeating what i typed and adding unnecessary info. And not always the correct info.
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I say this again, tell me what information I have provided is incorrect.------------------
 There is no replacement for: AWD, high rpm's and very very big turbo's [This message has been edited by Sean4852 (edited 11-02-2004).]
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CertifiedMechanic
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NOV 02, 09:10 PM
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still repeating yourself about turbos  who cares about reliability. i already discussed that with the pistons on page 2 or 3. Theres only 1 argument. turbo installs can be done in less time then an engine swap case closed. Dont need to go on and on. Read what your buddy typed. He believes engine swaps take less time to do. Im not gonna discuss metal fatigue, turbo selections, volume efficiency, oil/water type turbos, intercoolers, etc.... If you wanna get anal, sure a turbo swap will take 1 year. 6 months of engineering, and 6 months of machining custom parts. Then more time for dyno runs and emission testing. But thats not the argument. It is to finish an argument about trigger that stated a turbo install takes more time and money. I can go to the junkyard, get a 20 dollar turbo, and install it on a fiero. Get some steel and fab brackets and tubing. It isn't going to be 100% compatible turbo. But theres a turbo on the car. Now i can brag to my ricer friends. I then put some nawz and ill have a bling bling fiero.
| quote | I already said that... I guess i should have worded my post differntly instead of saying "You said the engine in my car is inefficient. I proved you wrong" it should have read more "You said the engine in my car is innefficient, I proved it is more efficient than the v8 engines you keep supporting" or something to that affect. I apoligize for the poor wording. If you think then engineers making these cars are stupid for putting gasoline engines back in though why aren't you helping to design the new hydrogen electric hybrid car or something?
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GM is going to be releasing hydrogen cars in 2007 i believe. You can talk to your love buddy trigger. Because he was bashing engineers for reinventing the wheel. But yet he owns a car. He hates engineers so much, but he loves his ricer. what a hypocrite. Someone had to engineer it. And to whoever said this before, either you or him. You dont need a 6 speed transmission to get better fuel mileage for a v8. You can have a four speed with a v8 and get better fuel mileage. But trigger has no experience and has poor knowledge with gearing.
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trigger
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NOV 02, 09:23 PM
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how do you figure i had to drop 3 classes? i bought my fiero when i was 14 years old, still a freshman in high school. i didn't need a refund because they didn't discuss them. i accepted the fact that they didn't have much about them in the lesson plans. then the teacher and i talked about them for a while. a lightly modded fbody can take down a 600cc sport bike on the highway. there's a video on THIS FIERO FORUM of a 1g dsm that takes downs an r6 on the highway like its standing still. he barely loses to r1s in the 1/4 mile. hm. no i'm not satisfied. with all the **** you're talking you should have the baddest assed fiero in existance. a red one. is it red down to the atomic composition? don't need my money eh? sounds like a challenge. back it up. you should need it. cause apparently while the majority have jobs during the day, your welfare living ass sits on the computer screen that my tax money pays for. what makes you think you know how much i make? i said 7-10 dollars an hour was the average in my area. who says i don't make more? street racing was born long before imports started competing. too bad you woke up to it like 95% of the other wannabes when the fast and the furious came out. i'll prove it on the street or on the track. we have an nhra track 10 minutes from my house. bring it. how do you know where i live? oh wait, you don't. i live in a nice house with a big new garage. keep working in the driveway though. it suits your "shadetree" side. you really got off over those guys in flannel didn't you? you repeat yourself over and over to make yourself sound smart. its like watching a rerun. offer stands. put up or shut up. ------------------ 88 fiero coupe. 2.8/5 spd (last driven sept 02) 90 eclipse. 4g63t, the replacement for displacement [This message has been edited by trigger (edited 11-02-2004).]
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