quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: Explain? I mean this coming from someone who didnt build his car, has never been to the dyno but claims big numbers and has never hit the track up. I mean lets hear what the wise man has to say. Once again, having a motor with high HP/Torque is great and all but what it is attached to makes or breaks the swap. I am not hear to argue as I stated above I love my modded 3800SC and am sure I will like my LS4 swap even better.

Didn't build his car ? Frankly, I've done 50% of the work on my car, the other 50% was done by "Professionals", why ? Because I'm smart!!!

Never been to a Dyno ? Have never had a reason to, and I have "Professionals" working on my car.

Never been to the track ?





I didn't build my car to compete for Low ET in the 1/4 Mile. The couple times I've gone, joining some friends who were running their cars, I make some passes just to see how it would run (but no serious effort has ever been make to make it quick in the 1/4, like adjusting tire pressures, suspension settings, using drag radials, etc). Frankly I got my fill of 1/4 mile racing in my younger years with great success. 1/4 mile is only a small factor of a vehicles overall performance.

On the matter of "Breakage" I didn't go the extra lengths to have a custom set of high performance halfshafts ($1,700), or have a low miles 5 spd Getrag completely cryo'd then fully rebuilt, just to pi$$ money away (along with numerous other modifications). Just because I haven't supplied the Forum with a dyno chart, or gone out to get time slips to show what the car could do in the 1/4 when properly set up, doesn't mean I'm a "Liar".

Someone posted posted this:
"Torque is pretty useless if you can't get it to the ground. I'm not saying that to "bash" anyone, I really don't care about C.Archambault. I'm talking from personal experience as the former owner of an unmodified L67 with a modest 237 lbs at 4400 rpm on 235/50-16 Nitto tires. I couldn't get full throttle off of rest without spinning my tires, it took finesse on the throttle. I would rather have a higher revving, lower torque motor in a Fiero so I can actually use it's potential. That's just me. Other people would rather peel panties with thundering exhaust and burning rubber. To each their own."

That fact of the matter is you can "get it to the ground" effectively, with a high torque V8, it just takes the right parts, right settings, right tires, and knowing how to drive the car correctly.

Back on thread topic sort of, I've never even purchased anything from Archie (his conversion kit isn't in my car). I will say this, If Archie "wanted to" he could use his resources to build a V8 Fiero that would beat everyone else's Fiero Conversion, that's just not on his agenda, and he builds what his customer's want.

Thanks Rare87GT for the compliment.

[This message has been edited by California Kid (edited 06-10-2007).]

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After Shaunbag is exposed as having asked Archie for a job as a Slack-Jawed Yokel
Archie sings ......... so I pulled off my hat & said imagine that, you workin' for meeeee. Lies, lies........

WOW, the good ole' days are back!

I am not going to get involved, guess I am getting old? I did just wanted to make a comment about the V8 cars getting more attention at shows. I go to the drag strip ALOT. Not just to race mu car, but to watch. This past weekend I attended the PINKS ALLOUT taping at Maryland International Raceway where the VAST majority of the cars were running high 9's to low 10's.
One particular matchup stood out. There was a 2004 Mustang GT prostreet car. It was nice and mean looking. It was loud and did a big ole' burnout. So you knew it was going to put up a big number. It lined up against this big car from the 80's. This car did a smaller burnout, looked just as mean. Didn't sound that good though, kinda quiet and ugly sounding. Now the cars are staged, and the Mustang revs the motor making all kinds of noise. the 80's boat follows suit, but then you start to hear a whining turbine sound. Light goes green, the boat lifts the front tires and charges down the track and beats the Mustang by two carlengths. The packed house went CRAZY! They were both in the low 10 second range, can't remember the exact ET's. The car was a Buick Grand National. With a force fed 3.8 liter V6. These cars gain mad respect at the TRACK. When any V6 beats a V8 at the track there are always shouts and clapping.
That being said, when my brother and I race, and set an ET in the 11-12 second range or beat a V8 powered car, people will come over and look for a V8 in the engine compartment. When they see a 6, they are absolutely floored. The problems lies in the fact that the motors came out of grocery getters, basically. I find that if you tell people that its a Grand National motor they are more impressed. What I am trying to say is that a fast V6 gets more respect then a fast V8 at the TRACK.

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1988 Purple Fiero GTw/SC3800 conversion
Best ET with 3.0 pulley,XPHOT cam, SS I/C and 105lb Valve springs: 12.38@110mph
Best 60 Foot ever: 1.699