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Phranc JAN 15, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:


As does your Ad-homenim twisting of a topic in an attempt deflect from the topic because you lack a valid argument.

You are a punk because you cant give it up and just keep trying to make the same invalid argument over and over again. 4 years you have tried this tactic. Any person with an IQ over that of a common average run of the mill house hold pet would know how futile and weak these ad-homenim attacks against me are.

Combine that with the fact that you have displayed this childish immature behavior for no less that 4 years means that you also qualify as a "stalker."



It hasn't been 4 years bill. You can't get anything right can you? What is invalid is the title you have as father. See bill fathers work two jobs if they have to to take care of their kids. My arguments are very valid. They aren't cut and past of links and reports I don't understand. Thats you bill. What is "Ad-homenim twisting of a topic"? Thats not even grammatically correct or possible. Stop using big words you don't understand.

Get a job and paying for your kids yet bill? Or are they still selling things to make ends meet? And I'm stalking you bill? That would imply I follow you and I don't you simply show up and post something retarded and get corrected on it. Then you piss you self in frustration and threaten people or make up words that aren't real and the other stupid sad little things you do while you should be taking care of the needs of your children.

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Phranc JAN 15, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:


You do realize this is how you enable people Phranc and his minions to get away with this crap dont you?

I'm going to complain because I have a right to complain about the incessant and constant harassment. If you are going to enable then then I am going to state here and now that if you continue doing so you will be identified as one of the harassers.



Good can we complain about you bill? You give it out but can't take it can you. That is a punk. Cry about being harassed just remember that you are the one threatening people bill. You very own actions and posting are all over this thread. And I've started to quote them because you have a habit of going back and editing them to hide what you do. Glass houses bill.
84Bill JAN 15, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Phranc:
Get a job and paying for your kids yet bill? Or are they still selling things to make ends meet? And I'm stalking you bill? That would imply I follow you and I don't you simply show up and post something retarded and get corrected on it. Then you piss you self in frustration and threaten people or make up words that aren't real and the other stupid sad little things you do while you should be taking care of the needs of your children.



I'm going to ask you to stop this harassment immediately. Your attacks on me serve no purpose what so ever other than to cause me emotional stress which it has been doing for some time now.

What you view as fun has gotten to the point where I am considering legal remedy for your senseless attacks on me...

You can take that any way you want but this is the first step in that process.

STOP NOW.
Formula88 JAN 15, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:


You do realize this is how you enable people Phranc and his minions to get away with this crap dont you?

I'm going to complain because I have a right to complain about the incessant and constant harassment. If you are going to enable then then I am going to state here and now that if you continue doing so you will be identified as one of the harassers.



If you wish to complain about someone else's behavior, you shouldn't exhibit that same behavior yourself. If anyone is enabling anything it's you. You cry foul when when you think someone's called you a name, and yet you sling the insults just as freely.

Don't be a hypocrite, Bill. If that's the kind of behavior you disapprove of, stop using it yourself and maybe others will take your complaints seriously.
Phranc JAN 15, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:


I'm going to ask you to stop this harassment immediately. Your attacks on me serve no purpose what so ever other than to cause me emotional stress which it has been doing for some time now.

What you view as fun has gotten to the point where I am considering legal remedy for your senseless attacks on me...

You can take that any way you want but this is the first step in that process.

STOP NOW.



Legal remedy? On what grounds bill? You threatened me. That right there makes it so you will lose. Do you honestly think you have a leg to stand on? Do you think you can afford a case? Do you really think you can sue me for money so you don't have to work? Can you afford a counter suit and charges for terroristic threats over the internet? Think about this bill. You aren't the innocent victim you think you are. I have the threats you made against me archived bill.

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84fiero123 JAN 15, 06:30 PM
Alright I give up you guys have been arguing for the last page and I have posted my thoughts on the subject yet only one person in this entire page felt that what I said was important, the simple minded pissing match that those of you who don’t even post on the original subject anymore just call each other names.

WTF is wrong with you?
WTF is wrong with you?
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS?
Are all of you so simple minded that the only thing you are capable of is to call each other names?

Oh here just in case any of you other than Formula feel you should get back on topic.


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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

Ok Ace, and others who think this is a reason to bicker back and forth just to bicker.

The economy has been going down from the beginning of this thread, granted it is not negative growth but it is going down. It will be negative growth this year and very shortly.

Those who have said the economy is growing, yes you are right, but the problem is that it is less and less everyday and has been all along yet those of you that see this as good don’t want to see that it is going down, down, down.

Billions upon billions of money we don’t have in America to prop up a failing banking system because of stupid investments by those who are supposed to be in the know. They are the educated ones. They should have known better they have an education, RIGHT?

Yet you keep saying I am stupid and don’t know what I am talking about.

You keep saying that we should let all those that are going bankrupt just go under. Well if we are to do that why not let those banks that were stupid enough to allow these loans to be made down under? They were the cause of all this.

Why keep propping them up?
Why because if we do not we will be in a full economic melt down. Depression.

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84Bill JAN 15, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Phranc:


Legal remedy? On what grounds bill? You threatened me. That right there makes it so you will lose. Do you honestly think you have a leg to stand on? Do you think you can afford a case? Do you really think you can sue me for money so you don't have to work? Can you afford a counter suit and charges for terroristic threats over the internet? Think about this bill. You aren't the innocent victim you think you are. I have the threats you made against me archived bill.




You may want to keep this handy. It's a filed complaint Phranc.. The State of Florida will take the case up if I present sufficient evidence to prove that you are and have continued to harass me. Even if they chose not to at the moment, the complaint having been filed will show that you have continued to harass me at which time the evidence may be sufficient enough to warrant further investigation and possible prosecution.

Title XLVI, Chapter 784784.048 Stalking; definitions; penalties.--

(1) As used in this section, the term:

(a) "Harass" means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.

(b) "Course of conduct" means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of "course of conduct." Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests.

(c) "Credible threat" means a threat made with the intent to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety. The threat must be against the life of, or a threat to cause bodily injury to, a person.

(d) "Cyberstalk" means to engage in a course of conduct to communicate, or to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through the use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a specific person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serving no legitimate purpose.

(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury of the person, or the person's child, sibling, spouse, parent, or dependent, commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(4) Any person who, after an injunction for protection against repeat violence, sexual violence, or dating violence pursuant to s. 784.046, or an injunction for protection against domestic violence pursuant to s. 741.30, or after any other court-imposed prohibition of conduct toward the subject person or that person's property, knowingly, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(5) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks a minor under 16 years of age commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(6) Any law enforcement officer may arrest, without a warrant, any person he or she has probable cause to believe has violated the provisions of this section.

(7) Any person who, after having been sentenced for a violation of s. 794.011 or s. 800.04, and prohibited from contacting the victim of the offense under s. 921.244, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks the victim commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(8) The punishment imposed under this section shall run consecutive to any former sentence imposed for a conviction for any offense under s. 794.011 or s. 800.04.

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84Bill JAN 15, 06:43 PM
I'm not kidding Phranc. Stop the harassment.
Phranc JAN 15, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:


You may want to keep this handy. It's a filed complaint Phranc.. The State of Florida will take the case up if I present sufficient evidence to prove that you are and have continued to harass me. Even if they chose not to at the moment the case having been filed will show that you have continued to harass me at which time the evidence may be sufficient enough to warrant further investigation.

Title XLVI, Chapter 784784.048 Stalking; definitions; penalties.--

(1) As used in this section, the term:

(a) "Harass" means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.

(b) "Course of conduct" means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of "course of conduct." Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests.

(c) "Credible threat" means a threat made with the intent to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety. The threat must be against the life of, or a threat to cause bodily injury to, a person.

(d) "Cyberstalk" means to engage in a course of conduct to communicate, or to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through the use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a specific person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serving no legitimate purpose.

(2) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person, and makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury of the person, or the person's child, sibling, spouse, parent, or dependent, commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(4) Any person who, after an injunction for protection against repeat violence, sexual violence, or dating violence pursuant to s. 784.046, or an injunction for protection against domestic violence pursuant to s. 741.30, or after any other court-imposed prohibition of conduct toward the subject person or that person's property, knowingly, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(5) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks a minor under 16 years of age commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(6) Any law enforcement officer may arrest, without a warrant, any person he or she has probable cause to believe has violated the provisions of this section.

(7) Any person who, after having been sentenced for a violation of s. 794.011 or s. 800.04, and prohibited from contacting the victim of the offense under s. 921.244, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks the victim commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(8) The punishment imposed under this section shall run consecutive to any former sentence imposed for a conviction for any offense under s. 794.011 or s. 800.04.




LOL keep it handy for your self bill. You do the exact same thing. And added to that you threatened me. Don't be stupid bill. You can't win.

But since this is a economics thread. Will your lawyer be pro bono? How will that spur the economy?

Bill I am a small business owner that works with the federal government as a contractor. I have a lawyer on retainer. Not only do you lose on principle but you lose because I can outspend you to make you go away. That is after a counter suit. Can you afford that bill?
84Bill JAN 15, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Phranc:
LOL keep it handy for your self bill. You do the exact same thing. And added to that you threatened me. Don't be stupid bill. You can't win.

But since this is a economics thread. Will your lawyer be pro bono? How will that spur the economy?

Bill I am a small business owner that works with the federal government as a contractor. I have a lawyer on retainer. Not only do you lose on principle but you lose because I can outspend you to make you go away. That is after a counter suit. Can you afford that bill?



Like I said, Stop harassing me.