Landscaper Under Fire for Refusing to Work for Gays (Page 16/65)
84Bill NOV 12, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Scott-Wa:
Next up... getting those people who are jewish to stop being so open about it. Oh wait, we've been there.



Well thats a religious bias.. better call them Israelites or "the other arabs."
whadeduck NOV 12, 06:03 PM
With all of this talk of hatred and intolerance, this is right, that is not, I'm right, your wrong. I have only one question.
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Did they ever get their grass cut?

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DRA NOV 12, 06:21 PM
She went home to take a shower and drop the dogs off! I'm unsupervised!!!!!!!!!!!

Just a quick comment on personal veiw of using the term "openly gay", I am not refering to a couple who walks hand in hand or is honest about their sexual orientation although I do feel that ones sexual orientation is a private matter. But rather I am refering to the extremeist individuals or groups that seem to want to push their lifestyle onto others (and yes the christian, aithiest, KKK, or any EXTREMEIST group who has no tolerance for others beliefs irritates me). I don't march up and down the road waving a flag and endorsing the heterosexual lifestyle, I don't push that any sexual lifestyle be endorsed or approved of in our schools. Maybe I'm a closet hetrosexual but I really feel that it's no ones business what goes on behind MY closed doors. When someone flaunts or parades their beliefs they are bound to attract detractors (that sounded neat!).

Now some folks, for better or worse, have very strong feelings and beliefs concerning folks that do not share their point of view. That will never change, but I do believe that as a whole our society has become more tolerant of others right to choose their particular path. At the same time I do not believe that in accepting another individuals right to choose their path that we are obligated to approve of or endorse that path. There will always be at least two people that should not ever be put in the same room together or forced to associate with one another, it's just a fact that everyone will never agree on everything.
Thats why I usually fall back on the old saying, agree to disagree. It would be lovely if everyone in the world could just be civil to one another, but being civil does not include being forced to associate or do business with a particular person or group.
Being civil can simply mean politely saying I do not wish to associate or do business with you because it goes against my personal beliefs, what is wrong with that?
DRA NOV 12, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by whadeduck:

With all of this talk of hatred and intolerance, this is right, that is not, I'm right, your wrong. I have only one question.
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Yes, a group of illegal imigrants took the job! LOL
JohnnyK NOV 12, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:
Hate doesn't run our streets rampant Bill. Ignorance does seem to be trotting along. If Cliff were to take this forums extremists veiws as a representation of how people really are it would be a shame. Of course I do live in a very tolorant state where we are very used to seeing different things.



You can take it as a microcosm, and it IS disgusting.
jstricker NOV 12, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:


John, you use the word "openly" a lot when discussing homosexuality.
Doesn't that seem a little "telling" to you?



Not particularly, no.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
"I don't want to SEE it, I don't want to HEAR it, I don't want to KNOW it."
That's your right.



Gee, thanks for allowing me that, at least.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
But you can't make them stop being VISABLE, SPEAKING, or BEING.



Nor do I want to.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
They were here in the beginning, and they will be here in the end.



Not really, but you believe what you want, it's a free country.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
You will, and probibly are, doing buisness with them.
But it's OK becouse you don't KNOW IT?



It's OK for ME, because I can't be responsible for what I don't know when there's no practical way to find it out.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Who's that you talk to on the phone?
Who takes your order on line?
Who owns that corporation?



Don't know, don't care, unless they make an issue of it.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
It's OK to do buisness with someone, as long as they HIDE who they are?
They must not be PROUD of who they are?




I don't care if they're proud, open, in the closet, or what. That's their choice to make and they should do what they think is right. I'll do the same. Where I object is when I'm forced by law to support, work for, hire, or otherwise interact with people I feel are choosing to live a sinful lifestyle. And it's not just by law, when they employ what amounts to blackmail tactics that result in threats of sodomy/rape and murder, that's even worse.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Unlike religion?
If you are religious, will you do buisness with those that AREN'T?



Some I do, some I don't. Again, that's MY choice to make. Not yours, not the governments, not a bunch of wackos that flood a website message board with terroristic threats.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
You said yourself, you should not have to do something just becouse it's politiclly correct.
Why should they?
Why should ANYONE have to hide who they are?
Becouse of the intolerence of the beliefs of others, that's why.



They don't HAVE to hide anything. They can do what they want. I'm not out to harm them in anyway and I don't care how they lead their lives as long as I am not forced to interact with their lifestyle.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:

Cruel to be kind, in the right measure?
I think not.



I have no idea what you're talking about there.


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Originally posted by Boondawg:
I hope we all (and that means me too) get smarter someday.
It's the only way we're going to survive.




And smarter to you means accepting something that the Bible, my personal faith, and even basic biology says is wrong?

No thanks.

John Stricker
84Bill NOV 12, 08:12 PM
Basic idiology which opposes the basic idiology that more than likely has been around since before your faith and bible even existed.


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Originally posted by jstricker:
And smarter to you means accepting something that the Bible, my personal faith, and even basic biology says is wrong?

No thanks.

John Stricker
Finally_Mine_86_GT NOV 12, 08:28 PM
not to screw up everybody's thought process but if the bible was right aren't we all related? and isn't that incest?... ok i know i'm going to get heat for this one but it's just a thought.
Falcon4 NOV 12, 08:34 PM
There once stood a lone bottle of beer. And it said to the platypus, "How doth thine wires of glory make me sweat!". The platypus smirked. Orange juice rained from the sky. It was a delicious day after all.

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larryemory NOV 12, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Scott-Wa:

And the pedophile comment made above was just completely ignorant.


Was it? Look around you. An out-of-preportion number of "pedophile" cases are actually male homosexuals having sex with underage boys. Almost all of the Catholic Church's child abuse cases are in this catagory. Could it have anything to do with half the Catholic semanary students being homosexual? The politically correct left covers this up. Can we say North American Man-Boy Love Association? These perverts actually beleive there's nothing wrong with this. Homosexual defenders say that there is no choice of sexual orentation. If that's true then pedopiles are supposedly hard wired the same way. Do we excuse their behavior because "they can't help it"? I'm a firm believer that CONSENTING ADULTS can do anything they want IN PRIVATE (as long as no one else's harmed). BUT I'm damned tired of having homosexuality rammed down my throat and being told I have to like it. Some of you "open minded" people will call me a homophobe. A phobia is a fear. Let's be clear: I don't fear homosexuals. The thought of what they do makes me want to puke. That my "progressive" friends is revulsion, not fear. On the other hand Lesbians don't seem to bother anyone. I've never heard of a Lesbian abusing an underage girl. It's probably happened but I've never heard of it. Oh yes before some open minded person says it, heterosexual men do abuse underage girls. All too frequently. I condem them equally. And yes: I'm a heterosexual male-I'm biased on this subject but not blind or ignorant.