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Formula88 JUL 16, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by HIOSILVER!:

Nope I dint LOL Guess I hadta put that in quotes too huh?




Formula88 JUL 16, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:


You are the only one who is disgusting Jerkwad. Me sending Emails and PMS? Have you lost what's left of your tiny little brain you ****. I haven't so much as acknowledged your worthless hate filled existance until this crack, you waste of carbon molecules. Waste my valuable time even THINKING about you is beyond my capacity.

Only YOU could be such a coward as to invoke my name in a thread I have not even been a part of for weeks and am not even REMOTELY interested in following. Thankfully I have friends here who let me know that, once again, you aren't man enough to say anything to my face but instead wait til I'm off somewhere else before talking smack about me.

Who do you think you are impressing with this **** ? You, me, and EVERYONE else here knows I have NEVER sent ANYONE ANY PMs or EMAILS filled with lies about you. Once again you don't seem to get it you giant walking vagina, you baby huey of the real world...I don't think of you, I don't talk about you, I don't care if you get run over by a bus or grow up to become the Queen of England! You are nothing to me! You are nobody! I want you out of my life! Stop mentioning my name, stop stalking me around the forum (you are NOT welcome to post your ingratiating ass kissing posts in my threads in some pathetic attempt to come off looking like some misunderstood sweetheart and God willing you won't have that choice much longer), Do not come to my club meetings. YOU sent me PMs. I ignored them and blocked from sending me anymore. YOU sent me emails. I ignored them and you are blocked from sending me anymore. What does that tell you, head case? Whatever crazy obsession you have with me, get the hell over it....NOW!


For the record - the PM Jeff quote above was one YOU sent to ME. It was apparently your effort to persuade me to stop replying in the thread, but because of the remarks you made about Jeff, I thought he had a right to know - so I forwarded the PM to him.

Jeff only posted the first PM you sent me. For the record - here is the entire PM exchange for everyone to read:


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PM from Toddster 07-04-2007 08:31 PM
You're not helping. I am doing everything I can to get Bear and others to stop talking to Stimpy. Jeff's insanity is infectious and it would be greatly appreciated if you would not reply to his ravings either. Telling him he actually might have a legal case is just fanning the flames of his dimentia. BTW, you do NOT want him to come along on your NC drive. The ONE thing every member of GGF is unanimous on is that Jeff is dangerous. This is not a joke. Politics and personalities aside, he is a danger and I am hoping that if everybody will please agree to ignore him he will get bored and move on to his next victim.




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My reply to Toddster's PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, Todd, but from everything I've read both recently and in the past suggests you guys seriously over reacted. I may be way off base, but in the recent threads, your club does not come off looking squeaky clean. I have not seen any evidence whatsoever that Jeff is dangerous or has ever made any threats to anyone at any GGF meeting. I would have expected your club to have a restraining order against him if that were true.

You guys don't like him - fair enough. You need to police your own if you want the thread to stop. I'll drop it if others do as well.

Respectfully;
John Miller




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PM from Toddster to my reply 07-04-2007 09:34 PM
There is no doubt that Jeff has again successfully managed to bait a few of our members. He has done an exellent job of trying to bait me but I know only too well after all this time and I am not biting. I intend to have a talk with John and Mike. I respect your opinion John. I am just asking that you not post anymore on the subject. Please don't feel singled-out. I have made the same request of everyone. I want this thing to just die a quick death.

As for the restraining order, we tried once before but had insufficient evidence which is why Mike and others are keeping a record of every email and word he says and documenting it. We intend to get such an order soon. He was once Stimpy and again Telegram Sam on PFF. He was banned for his threats. he actually hacked into another PFF members account and changed data and posted under his name. Cliff banned him for that instantly. Then he threatened Cliff with physical violence. Ask Cliff. His threats to GGF members and the club as a whole are a matter of record and are FAR worse than anything he has said to other PFFers. We have to live with his presence and although he is masterful at playing the victim online, we know better.

I am not asking you to take sides. I'm just asking for the benefit of the doubt.

Thanks for your time
Todd



Preserve THIS for the record.

[This message has been edited by Formula88 (edited 07-16-2007).]

Archie JUL 16, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Falcon Fiero:

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Very good, but we gotta get you back into Fieros.

Think Roadsters!!!

Toddster JUL 16, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:


I'll prove that you are a liar.



Yeah? Still waiting to see that Proof Jeff.

Read along brain bone..."You, me, and EVERYONE else here knows I have NEVER sent ANYONE ANY PMs or EMAILS filled with lies about you.

OK genius, I sent a few respectful emails asking people to KNOCK THIS **** OFF. I REALLY doubt that you will find anyone who can read those PMs and see them any other way...except you of course.

So where is the lie? I can't find ONE single word in any of the exchange with Formula88 that is untruthful but go on scrabble brains, let's see you point out the lie. Once again the lie is in your own twisted head and everybody else is going," uh...sounds like a pretty reasonable request to me."

Also, the fact that John Miller would share a PRIVATE MESSAGE with you is disheartening to say the least. If I were remotely interested in hangin around the thread for one second longer I'd insist that you have some explaining to do John. Don't bother.

FACT: Stimpy was kicked of PFF for hacking into another PFFers account. ANYONE defending this action or criticizing the sanction is an idiot.

FACT: Not ONE member of GFF wants anything to do with Stimpy (we have about 70 members from all different backgrounds) because of his abusive language and obnoxious "I am the center of the universe pay attention to me" attitude where ever he goes.

FACT: He threatened Cliff with Physical violence and this is a matter of PFF record.

I see NO lies and I stand behind every word of these PMs

If the rest of you want to continue this circle jerk be my guest. I did everything I could to kill this worthless thread and now I am being called a liar behind my back by a liar. THAT'S COMEDY!

[This message has been edited by Toddster (edited 07-16-2007).]

fierobear JUL 16, 06:47 PM
While we're at it...


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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:

I'll prove that you are a liar. Why not man up and admit that you can't stand the fact that I am in your sandbox, and you won't be happy until you drive me out. You're willing to call some woman you've never met an uncle ****er, what makes anyone suspect from your previous conduct that you wouldn't stoop to call me a child molester? Does that bother your "ethics"?

So I am a danger to society when it suits you to slander me, but when it comes to showing how big and bad "THE TODD" is, then I'm a big pussy who is afraid to say something to a balding, pot bellied realtor. I'll be happy to face you anytime to let you know precisely how I feel about you. Again. So have a cigar ready

You can have your club. I;ll be happy to not ever have another dealing with you again in my life, but the forum should know what a lying, backstabbing piece of **** you are. Burn in hell.



Formula88 JUL 16, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:

Also, the fact that John Miller would share a PRIVATE MESSAGE with you is disheartening to say the least. If I were remotely interested in hangin around the thread for one second longer I'd insist that you have some explaining to do John. Don't bother.



Had you simply asked me not to post in an effort to diffuse the thread, I doubt I would have said anything. But since you were making pretty serious accusations about Jeff, I felt he had a right to know about them.

They are posted here in their entirety to quell any argument over who said what between you and Jeff. The accusations you have made may be true or not - I don't know. But there they are, for what it's worth.

If that disheartens you, that's a shame. "PRIVATE" does not give you the right to speak about others with impunity. If Jeff had made any inflammatory remarks about you in a PM, I would have notified you in kind.
fierobear JUL 16, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:

FACT: Not ONE member of GFF wants anything to do with Stimpy (we have about 70 members from all different backgrounds) because of his abusive language and obnoxious "I am the center of the universe pay attention to me" attitude where ever he goes.




I believe we have 160+ on our club roster.
crzyone JUL 16, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:

Also, the fact that John Miller would share a PRIVATE MESSAGE with you is disheartening to say the least. If I were remotely interested in hangin around the thread for one second longer I'd insist that you have some explaining to do John. Don't bother.




If what you say in PMs is something you would not say in the open, then don't send them. You seem like the kind of guy that loves to gossip behind peoples backs. People do not appreciate gossip queens, especially when putting someone down behind their backs. Thought you would have learned that in elementary.
WhiteDevil88 JUL 16, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:

FACT: Stimpy was kicked of PFF for hacking into another PFFers account. ANYONE defending this action or criticizing the sanction is an idiot.



WRONG: Cliff terminated my account long before Stuart Lowery hacked into John Szpara's PFF account and emailed me the password. I was wrong to do anything with that information, and haven't claimed otherwise. However, if I had not changed the password within 20 minutes of being provided that password, it would have been dissiminated to other individuals. I had the new password sent to a non-existant email address, and his account was secure again. But as point of fact, I had already had my account closed by Cliff MONTHS previously.


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FACT: Not ONE member of GFF wants anything to do with Stimpy (we have about 70 members from all different backgrounds) because of his abusive language and obnoxious "I am the center of the universe pay attention to me" attitude where ever he goes.



WRONG. Not ONE member of GGF besides the four of you (Micheal, John and Andrew) has gone on record on this forum saying anything remotely close to what you are trying to put in their mouth. Furthermore, out of an alleged 70 members, I've met less then half of that number when they attended the Rally Through the Valley(s). So you are alleging that people have this opinion of me, when they have nothing to base that opinion on other then what vile gossip is spread around by the four of you.

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FACT: He threatened Cliff with Physical violence and this is a matter of PFF record.



Prove it. You must be referring to some thread or post that I made, so post the link.


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I see NO lies and I stand behind every word of these PMs

If the rest of you want to continue this circle jerk be my guest. I did everything I could to kill this worthless thread and now I am being called a liar behind my back by a liar. THAT'S COMEDY!




Who is behind your back? You are a patholgical liar. If you feel more comfortable sharing that sentiment in person, I'd be happy to accomadate. I know I've told you before. I don't lie because it's far easier to keep track of the truth. You, on the other hand, keep talling the lies over and over again, that you don't know what the truth even looks like anymore.

bmwguru JUL 16, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Archie:


Very good, but we gotta get you back into Fieros.

Think Roadsters!!!




I so want that car, Archie...and my wife makes it look even better.
Dave