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GT 2m6 NOV 01, 01:44 AM
Cleared what? I didn't see anyone ask what rice was, I think everyone knows what it is and isn't...
trigger NOV 01, 01:37 PM
and yet again this thread was almost dead and somebody kicked it back up. how it turned into dsms i don't really know. i posted the original post based on the fact that so many people on this forum are too close minded imo. I WAS NOT BASHING FIEROS. so the next dumb f*cker that says i was needs to read this whole post. i really do like my fiero. im also on several dsm forums, and have stuck up for fieros on there. i wasn't even trying to compare them, because its really a no contest decision. i was just trying to get some **** through to thick skulled people like gt2m6 there, and that certified mechanic tool that has run away into hiding. got it?

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88 fiero coupe. 2.8/5 spd (last driven sept 02)
90 eclipse. 4g63t, the replacement for displacement

SandstormGT NOV 01, 01:54 PM
NYFastback, that had to be the most stupid comment you could have said, can you really sit behind your computer and tell yourself that "rice" cars don't do hybrid engine swaps also? Do you think putting a stock RSX type S motor in a stock civic hatchback is easy, if so you should go try it, atleast you would be pulling low 12's stock and getting some nice gas mileage unlike your big "badass" v8...

edit: and no this thread wasnt almost dead, it was the first thread I saw on the top last night when I signed on.

[This message has been edited by SandstormGT (edited 11-01-2004).]

FastIndyFiero NOV 01, 03:27 PM
Whatever guys, turbo 4cyl's suck, long live the supercharged 454 big-block

I can dump X amount of dollars into my car, and it will be better than ____

I can change ____ on my car and it will be faster than ____

I can ___ the ___ and it will ___ the crap out of ____

Isn't that cool? My car ROCKS.

FastIndyFiero NOV 01, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by SandstormGT:

I find that very impressive, considering the fastest Fiero on the forums hasnt broken into the 10's yet, and its not even street legal?


Not trying to tear your post apart or anything Sand, but if you're referring to FieroX's, it's street legal. I'm not sure if Cardealer's is, but he's into the 10's (personally, I question whether it should be included). There are also non-forum members into the 10's.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/034445.html

CertifiedMechanic NOV 01, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by trigger:

and yet again this thread was almost dead and somebody kicked it back up. how it turned into dsms i don't really know. i posted the original post based on the fact that so many people on this forum are too close minded imo. I WAS NOT BASHING FIEROS. so the next dumb f*cker that says i was needs to read this whole post. i really do like my fiero. im also on several dsm forums, and have stuck up for fieros on there. i wasn't even trying to compare them, because its really a no contest decision. i was just trying to get some **** through to thick skulled people like gt2m6 there, and that certified mechanic tool that has run away into hiding. got it?


what a flip flopper!

Hmm how this got all started about DSMs? Read your first post.

You not bashing fieros. Read "all" your posts

me hiding im right here you flip flopper.

CertifiedMechanic NOV 01, 06:02 PM
Lets discuss Trigger's small penis problem. You dont need a university college education like myself to realize this. But because I like writing research papers. Lets take a look.

Remember when this thread was about people posting videos of fieros beating Ricers. I just wanted to have a cup of hot chocolate milk to study these exciting videos. But out of the blue, a moron named Trigger starts a flame war.



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Originally posted by trigger:
how bout videos of 75% of the fieros on here not being fast enough to outrun a stock dsm, or subaru, or evo, let alone modded cars. you guys are worthless.

Anyone see the hate? We are simply worthless. The people who leave their fieros in stock condition to the ones who spend a few grand to make theirs more up to date with technology.

But wait. Didn't Trigger flip flop on who started this thread ????



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Originally posted by trigger:
how it turned into dsms i don't really know.

I know i didn't need to be in college to figure this out. Reading comprehension was part of the ACT tests. As we see in the first quote.... Trigger believes all of us are worthless because fieros cant beat DSMs. How this post turned into DSMs? We may never know.


I also am inspired by Triggers great mechanical knowledge. Maybe our fieros are more difficult to fix because the technology is lacking.

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Originally posted by trigger:
im not mad at anybody that the car hasn't run since 02. thats my own fault.


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Originally posted by trigger
i work on cars all day, everyday, for a living. when i leave my job, i go work on more cars.

everyone, hold back. He works on cars everyday but cant get his fiero working for the last 2 years.
Maybe my assumption is right. He drains oil, removes oil filter, installs filter, sometimes puts the drain plug back in, and adds oil. You know, the idiot at firestone that does the oil change.



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Originally posted by trigger
you don't have to pay 30k for a boosted car. **** talkers are stupid, and i don't care what kind of car they drive. if you can't back it, don't say it. simple sh*t. dollar for dollar you will lose. how much is that 3800sc swap costing you? guarantee i can go 12s for far less.
wrx's are quick cars. were you running around acting like your sh*t don't stink and racing your shadow? or was he actually trying?

Really? It only costs 20 dollars to get a turbo from a junk yard. But 30K goes into putting all the "bling bling" effect into a ricer.

How much a 3800 swap costs. I thought your a mechanic. You would know an engine change costs more then installing a turbo. Hours involved. Dont you have Alldata at your job to figure out the hours needed. I thought you installed engines before?

Theres more benefits with getting a 3800 then a turbo. Anyone can go 12 seconds with a turbo. But turbos suck at low end torque and lag. And eventhough there are people with SC 3800 that can reach or have 12 seconds car. Are you jealous now?


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Originally posted by trigger:
seans talon is modded. it has a maft, safc II, 255, tdo6 20g, fmic, 3" exhaust, 880cc injectors, keydiver stage 3 chip, act 2900, and a fidanza 8lb flywheel. that should cover most of it.
i've never heard of dsms having piston problems unless a lot of knock was present. under severe boost creep i was seeing 20+ psi on a ported and clipped big 16g on stock injectors and it was fine. i launch the car at 6k on a regular basis w/a 2600 and fidanza flywheel and it sees the rev limiter on a weekly basis with no problems. my fiero took the launches well enough, but burnt up a lot of clutches, granted they were cheap, but that like bast*rd hooked. it hated life when it saw the limiter though.


what else do you do with Sean. No wait, dont tell us.

Never heard of DSMs having piston problems. I thought your a mechanic and would "know" instead of "heard" You dont need detonation to ruin a piston. oh ya we all forgot your a mechanic. detonation must be the only way a piston fails



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Originally posted by trigger:
my car was made in normal, illinois. my friends uncle works at the plant. im supporting the economy just fine thanks.


your supporting the economy? Isn't everyone supporting the economy? I doubt no one on here spends money.



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Originally posted by trigger
i don't know about cars? i find that kind of ironic coming from an engineer. i work on cars all day, everyday, for a living. when i leave my job, i go work on more cars. i make fast cars, i've done a bagged sonoma that lays frame. i've rebuilt engines. telling me i don't know about cars? you're a no talent a$$ clown as far as im concerned. this thread was calming down til you talked.


You work on cars all day long.
If people can still remember what they read above unlike trigger's reading comprehension.

1. His fiero has been sitting on blocks since 2002
2. 3800 costs more, because they are engine swaps
3. pistons only fail due to detonation or what he calls it "knock"

This thread was calming down till i talked anyone else remember this?


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Originally posted by trigger:
how bout videos of 75% of the fieros on here not being fast enough to outrun a stock dsm, or subaru, or evo, let alone modded cars. you guys are worthless.



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Originally posted by trigger

as stated by sean, our cars came turbo. read the whole post before making an a$$ of yourself. all that education and still proving that you're an engineer. atta guy.



Because your car came with a turbo gives you an excuse for being stupid? I guess you can ignore the point where both of you were wrong about piston failure.
Even sean "your boy" states hes putting a turbo on his car.


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Originally posted by Sean

I decided to go ahead and do a turbo, intercooler, and injector upgrade as well as some other little parts and by the time the rest of my parts get here (external wg, slim fan, ect) the tracks will be closed. Sorry to dissapoint you.




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Originally posted by trigger
exdeath, i never said american cars suck. i happen to own one. i don't think i stepped out of line when I was personally attacked first. somebody telling me i don't know anything about cars when its my livelyhood. the reason i said what i did, is due to the fact that he is a newbie, who obviously didn't read the whole post before he said the stupid things that he did. also, i have seen you come unglued before, and i don't recall you getting a negative rating from me, but whatever.


im a newbie?
didn't you claim me to be fierospeeder? Hasn't he been on here since 1999?
And you not knowing anything about cars. Hey, just read some of the things you have said. Plus, your lack of helping other fiero members with their mechanical problems.


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Originally posted by trigger
you're telling sean that just because he's going to school doesn't mean he knows anything. what makes you think that you know anything then? i've seen engineers **** up a light bulb install.


Well, sean has the same knowledge as those engineers that cant install a light bulb. Hes your friend, help him out.


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Originally posted by trigger
you're talking a lot of **** , and it doesn't sound like you're ready to back it, and you are just repeating everything you've said. at what point did anybody say fieros sucked? you think you're partriotic? what makes you any more patriotic than the rest of us? my dad fought 3 tours in vietnam, he rides a yamaha motorcycle. you want to call him unpatriotic? it would quite possibly be the last thing you ever did.


I served my country, which would make me patriotic. Have you ricer boy?

And just because your daddy fought in nam, doesn't make you a winner now. I dont see you in Iraq. Your in the homefront ricing your DSM.


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Originally posted by trigger

you keep saying sean's "adding a turbo to a car", then, in your last post. you say, so what, you bought a turbod car. can't make up your mind?


well, seans car came with a turbo, and hes adding a turbo to his car. What do you have a problem with? Thats what he said, lets read his quote.


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Originally posted by Sean

I decided to go ahead and do a turbo, intercooler, and injector upgrade as well as some other little parts and by the time the rest of my parts get here (external wg, slim fan, ect) the tracks will be closed. Sorry to dissapoint you.




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Originally posted by trigger
how is modding a 4 cylinder a waste of time and money? its going to be faster than v8s, and get better gas mileage. well?


didn't you say your a mechanic. You would know a four cylinder sucks and is underpowered with torque.
V8s are slow. But why is NHRA have the fastest v8s in the world?
V8s dont get better gas mileage?
Someone already posted this with a quote.
I can see why your not a real mechanic. Because a v8 can get equal or better fuel mileage then a four cylinder.

or are you gonna flip flop again?


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Originally posted by trigger
i don't do oil changes all day long. yes i know obd II. nobody ****ing cares about the atoms in an engine block. except some dip **** engineer thats trying to reinvent the wheel and take credit for it. you're a dumb ****er. thats all it comes down too.


Isn't yoru car created by some dumb engineer because he is just reinventing the wheel. Putting back an unefficient gasoline engine in a car?
You sure you dont do oil changes all day long, oh ya you inflate tires too. Because you would have said v8s can get great mpg also.


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Originally posted by trigger
yet again, who said fieros suck? and which company isn't around? mitsubishi? go race an evo mr, and post up a video clip since thats what this thread is about. make sure you've got a good zoom function so we can see the taillights all the way ahead of you.


Your all into DSMs and you forgot which company isn't around. I can quote the other guy whom stated which company is gone and its not mitsubishi. Or are you simply just being dumb?



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Originally posted by trigger
how many engines have you ever built? once you build an engine, the factory aspects go out the window. all new tuning maps. have you ever tuned an engine? or wait, yeah, you're trying to reinvent the wheel. hows that going for you?

i can go out to my car, stomp on the gas pedal, and build boost in neutral. you go try it. oh wait, you don't know jack about turbo cars, and have obviously never worked on one. this thread belongs in the trash can.



Ive rebuilt numerous engines. And i doubt all engines are alike except for the theory on how they work. But i bet a harley engine is just like a fieros v6. factory aspects go out the window.


You stated im fierospeeder and i have a tbird which happens to come with a turbo. So wouldn't i know about the boost issue. And eventhough, im not him. Because i am certified and have an engineering background, i know you cant build boost in neutral.

you just keep looking dumber each time i read your quotes.


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Originally posted by trigger
tell ya what, why don't you come down here, try reiventing the oil change while you're at it, since you think you're the brightest crayon in the box, and tell me how i don't know about cars. you're problem is that fact that in trying to prove that we don't know anything, you show the retard inside of you. i don't see anybody backing you up.


you want me to come to your trailer park and show you the right way to change the oil?

i dont need to tell you. It is obvious reading your posts that you have no clue on how a car functions, even at a basic level.



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Originally posted by trigger
certified dumb a$$. i find it funny that you call me a shadetree mechanic. lets check out your webpage. http://www.geocities.com/fierospeeder hm. you must not have been an engineer for long, if at all. you were still in school in 01. sh*t man, i hate to say it, but you seem to be losing credibility. not to rag on community colleges, but are you taking your engineering courses there? or did you learn everything from shadetree mechanic? they sure were good at bolting on stuff.
i work in a real shop, im not a lube monkey. i have pictures of both of my cars and sean has pictures of his. mine may not look the greatest, but at least i have proof. you don't even have any pictures of your fiero on the webpage. hiding something? or are you just sore cause your thunderbird is slow?


didn't know that was my website. cuz you called me a newbie. im so confused
not to rag on community colleges? if you are a mechanic, isn't that where you got your education from. And if i was in school in 01, your love buddy sean is still attending. Maybe you should hold his hand till he graduates.

you work in a real shop? oh your not a lube monkey. So your a tire monkey. Changing tires all day. Because
you dont know how a turbo works
dont know how a piston may fail
dont know that 4 cylinders suck in torque
dont know that v8s can get better gas mileage



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Originally posted by trigger:
and yet again this thread was almost dead and somebody kicked it back up. how it turned into dsms i don't really know. i posted the original post based on the fact that so many people on this forum are too close minded imo. I WAS NOT BASHING FIEROS. so the next dumb f*cker that says i was needs to read this whole post. i really do like my fiero. im also on several dsm forums, and have stuck up for fieros on there. i wasn't even trying to compare them, because its really a no contest decision. i was just trying to get some **** through to thick skulled people like gt2m6 there, and that certified mechanic tool that has run away into hiding. got it?

how it turned into DSMs man, your an idiot. plain and simple


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Originally posted by trigger:
how bout videos of 75% of the fieros on here not being fast enough to outrun a stock dsm, or subaru, or evo, let alone modded cars. you guys are worthless.

people should just ban you off because your not a valuable member on here. If you had any tech knowledge, your posts would be a lot higher.


PS, please stop PMing me with your lame comments.
thank you

are you sure you work in a real shop? or are you saying changing oil and tires makes you a mechanic?

yellowstone NOV 01, 06:17 PM
I have to contradict you here:

- Audi (Quattro, Allroad)
- Porsche (S4, one of the highest performers)
- VW (4motion)
- Mercedes-Benz (4matic)
- many others, when it comes to highest performance and need to transfer lots of HP to the road, 4WD is king


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3) Your wonderful Eagle was not only canceled like the Fiero, but the company went under too. The 3000GT AWD was also canceled. In fact, the only AWDs left that aren't trucks or vans are Subarus, and every Subaru for the last 30+ years has been AWD. Says a lot about the staying power of that set up. I'd hate to think how much power loss there is on your 10 year old technology Talons and what not due to the elaborate driveline.

California Kid NOV 01, 06:55 PM
Curry aji no unko ka unko aji no curry ka docchi ga ii?
SandstormGT NOV 01, 07:30 PM
I love you guys =)