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Arizona85GT
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DEC 12, 08:09 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Smoooooth GT: First off.. I did not start this thread to start a war!
I want to add a few thing's since I feel like I HAVE TO! I found him with his stuff packed and in his truck. He was waiting on someone and was already on the pier when I found him. 1. The assault was thrown out by the judge since I just help the pipe with the promise to kill him with it if he did'nt do what I said. I never used it on him once. 2. The kidnapping was also thrown out by the judge since I did'nt move him more the 12ft. required for the it to become kidnapping... I made him tie himself up(feet) and I tied his hand's in front of him(so he would'nt drown..maybe) I told him a few choice word's and gave him a push(5ft. deep). So, the assault was thrown out, the kidnapping was thrown out by the judge!!
3. The failure to render aid was also thrown out since I DID help him in was the judge said was an appropriate time manner...  4. The Auto Theft is ALL I have left to beat and I might beat it since, I did'nt use any and I just let it coast down a hill and down the boatramp..... Everyone please stop!! |
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LMAO! Dunno, I just find that downright hilarious  Adam
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PURPLE REIGN
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DEC 12, 08:57 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by FieroMojo: I'm come here to assist when and where I can but now I feel I have to walk on eggshells around some of you. I really dont appreciate being called a scrotum nor do I appreciate the insinuation that I render affectionate advances toward someones glutious maximus merely because I keep my nose clean on this forum. I guess I was raised differently. Personally, I'm glad 80's BOY wont be at any shows as he opted to part out his car, effectively killing yet another Fiero for his own gain. Not having to meet this individual in person makes me feel better about attending Fiero functions. There are a few others however that dont fit that situation and all I can do is pray that our paths do not cross. |
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About time this hit the can............ I'd say the same thing Mojo............it's getting so disgruntling that interest is REALLY being lost in the Fiero world and the participation of show's & events.............even the car itself 
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Smoooooth GT
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DEC 12, 11:27 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Arizona85GT: LMAO! Dunno, I just find that downright hilarious  Adam
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Adam... No, I just got VERY LUCKY that I got a woman judge instead of a old man judge... I still have the other, but we'll see.
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DEC 13, 12:00 PM
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HOLY SHITE! ok well, I haven't been on here long enuff to have an opinion on this matter...but I would like to say, I was in this position a couple of years ago (I was 12 living on the streets stealing cars for money) and I can totaly see why MR.GT had to do what he did...even if this is in the TRASH CAN, this should be a lesson to ya'll! ...PUT UP OR SHUT UP... c'ommon guys, a kid got hurt! some1 tried to rape my female friend 2 years ago, so what did I do? lets just say, good god damn thing we have free health care in Canada EH? a.k.a OUT ------------------
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stimpy
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DEC 13, 05:25 PM
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Smoke and mirrors. The art of diversion. If I disapprove of Smooth misappropriating funds entrusted to him to deliver products, then obviously I support child abuse? The two issues have absolutely nothing to do with each other! All of you who are buying into this as an excuse need to step back and open your eyes. Hopefully Steve gets off his ass and goes to work, gets the money to ship his products and puts this issue to bed. All of this chest thumping about "what I'd do if I saw someone hurting a kid" is totally irrelevant and it's getting rather boring.
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ditch
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DEC 13, 07:46 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by stimpy: Smoke and mirrors. The art of diversion. If I disapprove of Smooth misappropriating funds entrusted to him to deliver products, then obviously I support child abuse? The two issues have absolutely nothing to do with each other! All of you who are buying into this as an excuse need to step back and open your eyes. Hopefully Steve gets off his ass and goes to work, gets the money to ship his products and puts this issue to bed. All of this chest thumping about "what I'd do if I saw someone hurting a kid" is totally irrelevant and it's getting rather boring. |
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Stimpy, You couldn't have said it any better...I've been following this thing for a while and all this crap about child abuse is starting to get really old
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DotTC
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DEC 14, 09:23 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by stimpy: Smoke and mirrors. The art of diversion. If I disapprove of Smooth misappropriating funds entrusted to him to deliver products, then obviously I support child abuse? The two issues have absolutely nothing to do with each other! All of you who are buying into this as an excuse need to step back and open your eyes. Hopefully Steve gets off his ass and goes to work, gets the money to ship his products and puts this issue to bed. All of this chest thumping about "what I'd do if I saw someone hurting a kid" is totally irrelevant and it's getting rather boring. |
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Amen Stimpy 
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Steve Normington
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DEC 15, 10:51 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Smoooooth GT: First off.. I did not start this thread to start a war!
I want to add a few thing's since I feel like I HAVE TO! I found him with his stuff packed and in his truck. He was waiting on someone and was already on the pier when I found him. 1. The assault was thrown out by the judge since I just help the pipe with the promise to kill him with it if he did'nt do what I said. I never used it on him once. 2. The kidnapping was also thrown out by the judge since I did'nt move him more the 12ft. required for the it to become kidnapping... I made him tie himself up(feet) and I tied his hand's in front of him(so he would'nt drown..maybe) I told him a few choice word's and gave him a push(5ft. deep). So, the assault was thrown out, the kidnapping was thrown out by the judge!!
3. The failure to render aid was also thrown out since I DID help him in was the judge said was an appropriate time manner...  4. The Auto Theft is ALL I have left to beat and I might beat it since, I did'nt use any and I just let it coast down a hill and down the boatramp..... Everyone please stop!! |
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You got lucky. What you have said here is second degree felony kidnapping. I quote:
| quote | Texas Penal Code § 20.01. Definitions In this chapter: (1) "Restrain" means to restrict a person's movements without consent, so as to interfere substantially with the person's liberty, by moving the person from one place to another or by confining the person. Restraint is "without consent" if it is accomplished by: (A) force, intimidation, or deception; or (B) any means, including acquiescence of the victim, if: (i) the victim is a child who is less than 14 years of age or an incompetent person and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement or confinement; or (ii) the victim is a child who is 14 years of age or older and younger than 17 years of age, the victim is taken outside of the state and outside a 120-mile radius from the victim's residence, and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement. (2) "Abduct" means to restrain a person with intent to prevent his liberation by: (A) secreting or holding him in a place where he is not likely to be found; or (B) using or threatening to use deadly force.§ 20.04. Aggravated Kidnapping (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly abducts another person with the intent to: (1) hold him for ransom or reward; (2) use him as a shield or hostage; (3) facilitate the commission of a felony or the flight after the attempt or commission of a felony; (4) inflict bodily injury on him or violate or abuse him sexually; (5) terrorize him or a third person; or (6) interfere with the performance of any governmental or political function. (b) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally or knowingly abducts another person and uses or exhibits a deadly weapon during the commission of the offense. (c) Except as provided by Subsection (d), an offense under this section is a felony of the first degree. (d) At the punishment stage of a trial, the defendant may raise the issue as to whether he voluntarily released the victim in a safe place. If the defendant proves the issue in the affirmative by a preponderance of the evidence, the offense is a felony of the second degree. § 12.33. Second Degree Felony Punishment (a) An individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the second degree shall be punished by imprisonment in the institutional division for any term of not more than 20 years or less than 2 years. (b) In addition to imprisonment, an individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the second degree may be punished by a fine not to exceed $10,000.
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Note that abduction does not require you to move him, all you have to do is restrain him. And by your own admission, you threatened him with deadly force. My personal opinion is that you also terrorized him by dumping him into the water with his feet and hands tied. Note: if you aren't able to prove that you voluntarily released him to a safe place then you have a first degree felony. [This message has been edited by Steve Normington (edited 12-15-2003).]
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Gokart Mozart
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DEC 16, 07:10 AM
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Smooth, hope you've contacted the people that are actually waiting on their parts and have told them when they can expect their stuff. How long were you incarcerated? 2 months? 4 days? When did you go in? If we had that info maybe some people will back down, but then again some people love to use any opportunity to cut someone down whenever they feel like it. Guess it makes them feel better. You should have thrown his keys in the water, and his plug wires... I will say it took guts to come forward and tell your problems to all here. I'm sure you knew you'd get slack on telling the truth and trying to get things sorted out. Good luck in the new year.
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stimpy
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DEC 16, 09:34 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Gokart Mozart: Smooth, hope you've contacted the people that are actually waiting on their parts and have told them when they can expect their stuff. How long were you incarcerated? 2 months? 4 days? When did you go in? If we had that info maybe some people will back down, but then again some people love to use any opportunity to cut someone down whenever they feel like it. |
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Aaargh! It doesn't make in difference, because the money was already spent! In for a dime, or in for a dollar, Steve used money that wasn't his! If you want to see some noble purpose in what he did, then that's just you wanting to feel better.
| quote | Guess it makes them feel better. You should have thrown his keys in the water, and his plug wires... I will say it took guts to come forward and tell your problems to all here. I'm sure you knew you'd get slack on telling the truth and trying to get things sorted out. Good luck in the new year. |
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Legal issues aside, the truth is is that it was easier to dip into other peoples money that had been entrusted to him then it was to work. If you want to make him a saint for that, be my guest.
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