Trump Protestors Storm Capitol; Armed Standoff at House Floor (Page 14/21)
Synthesis JAN 07, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


In most cases?

As a law enforcement advocate, in most cases is honestly a load of crap. Don’t care whether it’s BLM or the Trumpers, the law should be enforced equally. If you take an honest a d unbiased look, you know that is true.

That doesn’t make this a perfect world but equal enforcement would be a good start. Don’t care who you are, your political affiliation, your sex or color. The law applies equally to everyone and should be enforced that way..

Rams


I'm glad you see things that way. Don't you agree that it would have been nice if the law had been applied as equally to the people storming the capitol yesterday as it was to the BLM people in Lafayette Square when they were violently assaulted with tear gas so Trump could go hold a bible upside down for a photo op?

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Hudini JAN 07, 08:38 PM
maryjane JAN 07, 08:47 PM
Hudini JAN 07, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by Synthesis:


I said "Terrorist Sympathizer". If you're going to make an attempt to call me out on something, at least have the decency to be accurate.




A distinction without a difference. You want to call mommy on someone calling you names? Then expect to get it in return.
Synthesis JAN 07, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by Hudini:


A distinction without a difference. You want to call mommy on someone calling you names? Then expect to get it in return.



I dunno. Let's ask Cliff...

Hey Cliff, if a person directly attacks a user on here by calling them a name like drama queen, isn't that a violation of the rules?

Similarly, if a statement that says "If you continue to support someone who incites violence and is the direct root cause of a terrorist act, then that in turn makes you a terrorist sympathizer" were made, does that count as a direct attack against a user?

Nope. I don't see the similarities.
maryjane JAN 07, 09:14 PM

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If you continue to support someone who incites violence and is the direct root cause of a terrorist act etc etc



1. I've asked this elsewhere and have seen others ask but no one has ever provided the exact words that they say are the incitement or direct cause.
You have them?

2. Correlation does not equal causation.
Synthesis JAN 07, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


1. I've asked this elsewhere and have seen others ask but no one has ever provided the exact words that they say are the incitement or direct cause.
You have them?

2. Correlation does not equal causation.



1: "If you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore", spoken by Trump at his rally yesterday morning. Repeated statements and intimations that his followers should take action. He also said: “We will never give up; we will never concede,” Trump said to thunderous applause. “We will stop the steal. We’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol…We’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones…the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.” before encouraging his supporters to march on the Capitol. Less than two hours later, the **** hit the fan.

2. I don't see that. It's no different than people who said "Hitler did nothing wrong" after all the **** hit the fan there as well... No, I don't believe Trump and Hitler are the same. I'm simply using Hitler as an example in this because there ARE people out there who believe Hitler and his followers didn't do anything wrong.
blackrams JAN 07, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by Synthesis:

I'm glad you see things that way. Don't you agree that it would have been nice if the law had been applied as equally to the people storming the capitol yesterday as it was to the BLM people in Lafayette Square when they were violently assaulted with tear gas so Trump could go hold a bible upside down for a photo op?




Not necessarily, I wasn't there, not able to access the threat. (I also don't always believe the mass media which has proven to be very biased.)

I have to assume that LEOs present determined the threat and used appropriate response to that threat. I doubt you'll agree based on all your other comments but, I believe that to be true. Do bad decisions and judgements get made? Damn sure they do but, everyone needs to remember that those LEOs who are putting themselves on the line to protect and serve also want to go home at the end of their shift. In the DC Protest, the Capitol Police were unprepared for what happened, they should have been. That is definitely a leadership issue, bad decision, they had intel advising them of different groups who were planning on attending. They should have been prepared. Just as with the BLM protesting, not all of the DC protestors were rioting.

Rams

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gtjoe JAN 07, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by Synthesis:

I'm glad you see things that way. Don't you agree that it would have been nice if the law had been applied as equally to the people storming the capitol yesterday as it was to the BLM people in Lafayette Square when they were violently assaulted with tear gas so Trump could go hold a bible upside down for a photo op?





If you search around for some on the ground reporting instead of just listening to opinions you would find there was quite a bit of tear gas used as well as flash bangs, batons, and physical force, as well as a gunshot. There is video from numerous sources posted on the interwebz.
Synthesis JAN 07, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by gtjoe:
If you search around for some on the ground reporting instead of just listening to opinions you would find there was quite a bit of tear gas used as well as flash bangs, batons, and physical force, as well as a gunshot. There is video from numerous sources posted on the interwebz.



I am quite aware of the fact that tear gas was used, as well as someone died from a gunshot wound to the chest. The on the ground reporting, videos, etc show it was nowhere near the scale of force that was used against BLM protestors.