Archie's chop's/Mikes windows results. (Page 14/31)
MstangsBware AUG 26, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:


Good look huh. It's kinda hard trying to peek at the "obvious" flows when the Stinger was backed-in with tall trees behind it. Did you bother mentioned to GTJeff that [you] driven all the way to the 25th to tell him that the Stinger contained "obvious" flaws and that Archie is imperfect.

Stinger; notice the trees in the background. Keep in mind he got a real good view at the 25th.





You are stuck on this whole issue with Stinger aren't you? Yes it was backed into place just like the rest of the car in that row. But there was about 10-12 feet beind the cars so people could get around. That's all it took to be able to get behind the car to see it was like Will's. Like I said I will leave this alone until I see Will's car again and have the proof so all the non-believers can see. Once again I have no reason to lie about what I saw and could find many other things to start comversation about.

madcurl AUG 26, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:


You are stuck on this whole issue with Stinger aren't you? Yes it was backed into place just like the rest of the car in that row. But there was about 10-12 feet beind the cars so people could get around. That's all it took to be able to get behind the car to see it was like Will's.




Oh really, 10-12 feet is all that is needed huh?


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Originally posted by MstangsBware:

Then at the 25th I noticed the same defect on the Stinger that was done many many years ago. Looks like the mesurement they use for that side versus the other side is off and hasnt been changed. You can really notice the differance if you stand being the car about 30 foot or so. I might be able to get a picture of the local car if its needed.



Dude, in a earlier posting you said that it took 30 feet to see the "obvious" flaws.


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Originally posted by MstangsBware:


You are stuck on this whole issue with Stinger aren't you? Once again I have no reason to lie about what I saw and could find many other things to start comversation about.



Dude, your observations are being "measured" by using your own very words. Please, go back to your Insurgent friends on RFT. Tell them how your where own'd here.

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MstangsBware AUG 26, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:


Dude, your observations are being "measured" by using your own very words. Please, go back to your Insurgent friends on RFT. Tell them how your where own'd here.




Like I said there HERO--I am done with this topic and will have the proof needed to SHUT YOU UP the next time I see Will's car. I have already said it once but I will say it again to you very SLOW--Being I can tell you must be a little hard of reading:


I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE ABOUT THE ISSUE AT HAND!!!!!!! IF I WANTED TO START A FLAME WAR THEN THERE ARE SO MANY BETTER TOPICS TO CHOOSE FROM!!!!!!
Did you get that?


Let's make a deal since you think I am so full of it and just making all this up. Nothing else will be said about this issue in this Thread until proof is shown with pictures and/or several witnesses or both. The DEAL:


If I am right then you admit you are wrong and leave the Forum

If you are right then I admit it and I leave the Forum.


I stand behind what I have seen and have no worries about having to leave the forum. You on the other hand are only going off words, pictures and the thought that I am only doing this to stir the pot with Archee.


Sound like a deal or are you going to start crawfishin out of all the crap you have spouted out your hole?
troyboy AUG 26, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:

Once again I have no reason to lie about what I saw """and could find many other things to start comversation about."""



Then dude why did you bring it up in the first place?? You did start this "sub topic".
madcurl AUG 26, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:

Like I said there HERO--I am done with this topic and will have the proof needed to SHUT YOU UP the next time I see Will's car. I have already said it once but I will say it again to you very SLOW--Being I can tell you must be a little hard of reading:


I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE ABOUT THE ISSUE AT HAND!!!!!!! IF I WANTED TO START A FLAME WAR THEN THERE ARE SO MANY BETTER TOPICS TO CHOOSE FROM!!!!!!
Did you get that?


Let's make a deal since you think I am so full of it and just making all this up. Nothing else will be said about this issue in this Thread until proof is shown with pictures and/or several witnesses or both. The DEAL:


If I am right then you admit you are wrong and leave the Forum

If you are right then I admit it and I leave the Forum.


I stand behind what I have seen and have no worries about having to leave the forum. You on the other hand are only going off words, pictures and the thought that I am only doing this to stir the pot with Archee.


Sound like a deal or are you going to start crawfishin out of all the crap you have spouted out your hole?



First off. I don't make deals with RFT insurgents.

Secondly, your "obvious" flaws that you've stated proved to be weak and insufficient when viewed by the pictures thus your mouthing-off on a a subject you didn't have evidence to back-up and therefore had to fall on your very own sword.

Thirdly, (which is the root of your issue) you have "issues" with V8Archie and anything that comes forth from his shop. That became evident by the mere fact you brought up the subject, which had no bearing on the subject at hand.... V8Archie chop top owners wanting glass.

Fourth; When adults are talking (trying resolve an important issues) please children stay out of adult conversations.

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jscott1 AUG 26, 08:21 PM
Saw a chop top on eBay... not an Archie chop and it had windows... I sent him a question asking about the side windows. He replied that they were the bone stock windows and can not be rolled up all the way. He intended to by windows from V8 Archie, but never got around to it. He claims a body shop in Albuquerque did the chop top. Thought that might be interesting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...dZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW





Archie AUG 26, 09:17 PM
Wow, you guys have sure been having a field day while I've been gone.

No way am I going to respond to everythng you guys were jabbering about while I've been gone.

Let me just summarize it....

Some guy who has been bashing me & telling me how to run my business for the last year or 2 says the Notchie Chop roof is off. Says he can prove it with pictures. While saying that, he lets it slip that he has good enough access to Loydes place that he can prove it with pictures thus confirming a rumor that was going around at the 25th that there were a few TX guys that access to Loyde but were keeping it quiet so that this Forum wouldn't find out that they were not trying to help them solve their problems.

So, we have 2 topics at that point, 1st, the notchie chop has a flaw according to some & 2nd, a few local people must have Loydes NEW contact info & they're withholding it from people who aretrying to get ahold of him.

On topic #2, Some respond that I've bashed the NTFC. Sorry guys, I never mentioned NTFC, you did. However, it's interesting to note that there is no one that has denied that they have access to Loyde. I'm not the only one who's noticed that a small circle of people around Loyde have been very quiet in the "Can't get my parts from Loyde" threads. One guy even says that using their contact with Loyde to help out his customers would not be right. Somehow I think that if I had taken 100% down payments in the $16K area each from 6 or 8 people & had not delivered in 2 or 3 years on projects that had been 100% paid for in advance, these same people would be right up front screaming for justice. But not a peep from them when their buddy is the one everyone is trying to get ahold of.

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much" whole lotta complaining from people from NTFC claiming that I insulted the club, when I never said a word about them. Kinda looks like I hit a nerve with a few people running that club. Almost so over sensitive that they read NTFC, when all I said was a few people in TX.

On Topic #1, Someone claims that there is a flaw in the chop top. Claims he can support his claims by getting pictures. Claims that Archie must use the "Wrong Dimensions" on the Notchie Chops. (Sure that's what we did. Everyone knows that all Fiero chassis' are similar, so we decided to build a modification that needs to be symetrical. But we also decided that we'd build the notchies to be non-symetrical, just to see if anyone would notice.)

Someone else takes an existing picture & does a layout inspection on it, showing it to be symetrical.

Then the OP says that you can't go off a picture....... then turns right around & says he's going to get some picture proof.

And Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.... on it goes

I wish i had a Dime for everytime someone makes an accusation without a bit of proof or documentation.

Too bad these guys won't put any effort to help people out with Loyde & will spend days trying to get a piece of me.

When will it end?

Archie

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MstangsBware AUG 26, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:


First off. I don't make deals with RFT insurgents.

Secondly, your "obvious" flaws that you've stated proved to be weak and insufficient when viewed by the pictures thus your mouthing-off on a a subject you didn't have evidence to back-up and therefore had to fall on your very own sword.

Thirdly, (which is the root of your issue) you have "issues" with V8Archie and anything that comes forth from his shop. That became evident by the mere fact you brought up the subject, which had no bearing on the subject at hand.... V8Archie chop top owners wanting glass.

Fourth; When adults are talking (trying resolve an important issues) please children stay out of adult conversations.




DEAL or STFU?
MstangsBware AUG 26, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Archie:
Some guy who has been bashing me & telling me how to run my business for the last year or 2 says the Notchie Chop roof is off. Says he can prove it with pictures. While saying that, he lets it slip that he has good enough access to Loydes place that he can prove it with pictures thus confirming a rumor that was going around at the 25th that there were a few TX guys that access to Loyde but were keeping it quiet so that this Forum wouldn't find out that they were not trying to help them solve their problems.

So, we have 2 topics at that point, 1st, the notchie chop has a flaw according to some & 2nd, a few local people must have Loydes NEW contact info & they're withholding it from people who aretrying to get ahold of him.

On topic #2, Some respond that I've bashed the NTFC. Sorry guys, I never mentioned NTFC, you did. However, it's interesting to note that there is no one that has denied that they have access to Loyde. I'm not the only one who's noticed that a small circle of people around Loyde have been very quiet in the "Can't get my parts from Loyde" threads. One guy even says that using their contact with Loyde to help out his customers would not be right. Somehow I think that if I had taken 100% down payments in the $16K area each from 6 or 8 people & had not delivered in 2 or 3 years on projects that had been 100% paid for in advance, these same people would be right up front screaming for justice. But not a peep from them when their buddy is the one everyone is trying to get ahold of.

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much" whole lotta complaining from people from NTFC claiming that I insulted the club, when I never said a word about them. Kinda looks like I hit a nerve with a few people running that club. Almost so over sensitive that they read NTFC, when all I said was a few people in TX.

On Topic #1, Someone claims that there is a flaw in the chop top. Claims he can support his claims by getting pictures. Claims that Archie must use the "Wrong Dimensions" on the Notchie Chops. (Sure that's what we did. Everyone knows that all Fiero chassis' are similar, so we decided to build a modification that needs to be symetrical. But we also decided that we'd build the notchies to be non-symetrical, just to see if anyone would notice.)

Someone else takes an existing picture & does a layout inspection on it, showing it to be symetrical.

Then the OP says that you can't go off a picture....... then turns right around & says he's going to get some picture proof.





Once again you go off on the wrong subject that has no bearing on what is being said. The issue between Loyde and his customers is not my problems and there is nothing I can do about it. If things need to be done to correct the issue then it needs to be done by the customers and not by me being I dont have anything in it. I will tell you I live 35 minutes from Loyde. If you are that concerned about helping people out then why dont you take a trip and help them out. There was one person at the 25th who asked about Loyde and that was Dirty Harry from down in FL.

Now back to your lopesided NB Chop Top:

When I see the car next time is will not be at Loyde's but at another location getting corrected. I said I will have proof with pictures, witnesses and hell even the owner of the chop. So that should be enough proof that the chop isnt right and I am correct.

I will offer you the same deal I offered MADCURL--Take it or STFU!!!!!

madcurl AUG 26, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:


DEAL or STFU?



Sorry Howie Mandell, this isn't the show, "Deal or No Deal" and like stated earlier; I don't deal with RFT insurgents.

Redeem yourself and help Will-Martin retrieve his car or at least have some dignity by "falling upon your sword," for you have embarrassed yourself today.