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Jncomutt
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MAR 14, 11:40 PM
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Oreif, true, they're not "built" up. A lot of the cars that are posted about frequently are gm "performance" engines which are 'built up' by GM. GM states these engines should get your car into low 12second territory. Its surprising that they lose over 100hp to the wheels from what GM rates them at. That is all I'm saying. That is an issue which I feel should be addressed with his setups.
btw Oreif, I like your car, was nice when it was 3.4 too.[This message has been edited by Jncomutt (edited 03-14-2008).]
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Oreif
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MAR 14, 11:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Mr.PBody:
I would hardly call a ZZ4 a stock motor, its built by GM to be a perforance motor. |
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It is built on an assembly line like every other stock GM engine. I said "basically" stock, meaning they assembled an engine using mass-produced parts. They are not hand built and tuned engines. Technically it is a "stock" 350 H.O. with aluminum heads.
Yes it is a "performance" engine rated at 355hp. It is not a max power all out racing engine. It is a performance engine designed and built by GM to be used as a reliable engine for a streetrod. Nowhere does it say that it's an all out drag racing motor.
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Mr.PBody
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MAR 14, 11:49 PM
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I respect that, and the fact you have real dyno, 1/4, and engine numbers. You actually backed your talk up, and I respect that, plus your car does look tight. Hope to meet you this summer.
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Jncomutt
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MAR 14, 11:57 PM
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nvm [This message has been edited by Jncomutt (edited 03-14-2008).]
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Oreif
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MAR 14, 11:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jncomutt:
Oreif, true, they're not "built" up. A lot of the cars that are posted about frequently are gm "performance" engines which are 'built up' by GM. GM states these engines should get your car into low 12second territory. Its surprising that they lose over 100hp to the wheels from what GM rates them at. That is all I'm saying. That is an issue which I feel should be addressed with his setups.
btw Oreif, I like your car, was nice when it was 3.4 too.
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GM states they should get you in the 12 second territory? Are they referring to a 1500lbs streetrod that the engine was designed for?
They don't "lose" 100hp at the wheels because of the kit. As an example, a ZZ4 is rated at 355hp. My car has dyno'd 309 rwhp. so that's a 46hp loss from crank to the road. That's a little over 12% loss thru the driveline. If there was a problem with the kit or workmanship that causes a power loss, don't you think it would show up on all swaps? BTW ~ For the record, two other ZZ4 powered Fiero's have had dyno's as well. One ran a 306 rwhp and the other ran a 309 rwhp.
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Jncomutt
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MAR 15, 12:10 AM
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Formula88
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MAR 15, 12:21 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Emc209i:
Oh nohz you win..  Being that most of you older folks relate speed to power, and power to rotating pistons... I guess so. But I think 12 seconds is slow for any drag car, regardless of rotating mass.
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I can agree that 12 seconds isn't very impressive FOR ANY DRAG CAR.
I don't know of many V8 owners who built their Fiero to be a drag car, though.
But I do love how your youthful ignorance lets you know how "older folks" think. Just think, some 2 year old kid sucking his thumb is going to be talking smack to you in about 20 years telling you how much you don't get it and how they know so much more than you do. It'll probably hold as much credibility with you as you do with me.[This message has been edited by Formula88 (edited 03-15-2008).]
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Jncomutt
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MAR 15, 12:34 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
[size=3]FOR ANY DRAG CAR.[/yellow] |
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You're Doing it wrong!
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crzyone
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MAR 15, 12:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Oreif:
Show me one other Fiero with a unmodifed off the shelf engine of smaller displacement running 12 seconds. There are none. But I know of at least three ZZ4 powered Fiero's and all three have posted actual timeslips showing 12 second runs.
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Not trying to be a smarass but Will did it with a stock N* running a 275hp chip. I hope to be deep into the 12s this summer if I still have my car. Northstars are probably the only non SBC that will get a fiero into the 12s stock.
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Emc209i
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MAR 15, 12:51 AM
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That's what older people said about Einstein, Kepler, and Da Vinci. Your decision to be an ass is entirely made on your own, age or not.
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