Five against one. Fair fight? Perhaps not. (Page 14/26)
FIEROPHREK JUN 02, 11:47 AM

quote
Originally posted by JohnnyK:


Bahahhahahhahahhhahahhahahaha.. I'll assume that was a joke, if so, I'll give you props for the 'terrorist robbing crew'.. But if it wasn't a joke, I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.



LOL Billy madison was a great movie. We are all now stupider for having read any of patrics replies. LOL

------------------
HARDCORE SBC CRONIE AND PROUD OF IT ! GOT TQ ?

JohnnyK JUN 02, 12:35 PM

quote
Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:


LOL Billy madison was a great movie. We are all now stupider for having read any of patrics replies. LOL




Err, my response wasn't directed towards Patrick. I see what he's saying to a degree, personally. And I think others just want to fight or inject cheap shots while making it appear that they are just sitting on the fence.
Patrick JUN 02, 02:55 PM

Wow, lots of comments. Good, I’ll deal with them as I have time during the course of the day.

For now, I’ll just deal with this one quickly:


quote
Originally posted by UDLOSE:

For your info, I had you at a negative yrs ago.




Coming from the likes of you, that’s a positive in my book.

From Did 6 million die in WWII?:


quote
Originally posted by UDLOSE:

STIFFLER let it go. Too many bleeding hearts on here. Plus if your beliefs differ from everyone else youre labeled a racist and a hate monger.

I love how people make up numbers, or claim to "know" so many "facts"

"The Final Solution" was created not only to be efficient but to minimize the trauma for German officers. Separating the men from the women, and then the children from the women, then to machine gun them all down in mass graves including the babies. That led to most German officers and troops to commit suicide. Yeah, they weren't human at all.

Demonizing Germans who were just doing their job is pretty pathetic.
Unlike all those "American" soldiers who fled to Canada to avoid Nam and the Iraq war. What jokes they are.

sondercommando. Anyone familiar with this? I like how people forget about those "victims".

The point is Stiffler if you go against what "civilized society" says is right and wrong. You will be a racist, etc.

meine Loyalität ist meine Ehre
larryemory JUN 02, 04:13 PM

quote
Originally posted by Patrick:


Yeah, put the gun in her hands, why don't you. Interesting how you tried to alter the news story a bit to more justify your position. I'm sure my point isn't lost on anyone who cares to see it.


You have no point-just misplaced values. So sad.
JohnnyK JUN 02, 04:30 PM

quote
Originally posted by larryemory:

You have no point-just misplaced values. So sad.



How is that misplaced values? Seems to me some of you guys care less about the point than who is making the point.. Remember a few years ago when I had to 'subdue' a girl who was throwing haymakers at me? Funny how I recall I was the bad guy in that scenario.. Is it cause I wasn't in the armed forces? I didn't have 'training that kicked in' so it was my fault, I consciously did it? It was only broken noses, and not shotgun slugs? I thought a 'thug is a thug'? Maybe he was in the right, maybe he wasn't..

If I'm walking down the street and get jumped, and happen to pull a knife out of my back pocket, I guarantee I'll be a murderer, not a hero, at least in some of your eyes. Replace me with someone else, and the outcome of the story changes and what I become changes, doesn't it?
Patrick JUN 02, 05:15 PM

Argh, I just don't have the time so far today to deal with all these posts... but I will eventually.

Johnny, considering that you and I have certainly had our share of disagreements over the years, I definitely appreciate that you’re able to look at this thread objectively and then express your opinion. Thanks.
Patrick JUN 02, 06:38 PM

Sorry for not dealing with these posts in chronological order.


quote
Originally posted by larryemory:

You have no point-just misplaced values. So sad.




Isn’t it interesting that prior to this post, Larry had contributed nothing, not one bit, to the discussion in this thread? Why would he now? Oh, I think I know...

A few posts back I made reference to - Did 6 million die in WWII?

For anyone interested, have look at the exchanges there between Larry and myself. Larry likes throwing around info that he pulls out of his... imagination. Here’s a sample of one of Larry’s posts in that thread:


quote
Originally posted by larryemory:

When it come to atrocities tha Nazis are always held up as an example. True they are but the numbers pale when compared to the numbers starved, murdered, executed by The Communist. Is it because the press is left leaning and tend to cover for the socialists? They also have gotten by with labeling the Nazis as a right wing government. The Nazis were also a socialist monstrosity. Again the scope of the atrocities is unknown. Between Stalen and Kruschev somewhere between 100 million and 200 million perished. The Communist were MUCH worse than the Nazis.




Larry doesn’t like his comments questioned, despite the number of generalizations, assumptions, and just plain errors. Typical political nonsense, but that’s grist for another day.

Thanks for your contribution to this thread, Larry.
frontal lobe JUN 02, 06:42 PM

quote
Originally posted by JohnnyK:


Seems to me some of you guys care less about the point than who is making the point.. Remember a few years ago when I had to 'subdue' a girl who was throwing haymakers at me? Funny how I recall I was the bad guy in that scenario.. Is it cause I wasn't in the armed forces?

If I'm walking down the street and get jumped, and happen to pull a knife out of my back pocket, I guarantee I'll be a murderer, not a hero, at least in some of your eyes.




Your supposed scenario isn't equivalent.

A few years ago, if the girl was throwing haymakers at you, and you RAN DOWN THE STREET trying to get away from her, and then she caught up with you and kept punching you, and THEN you subdued her, THAT would be analagous. And then you would have received a different response.

PLUS, communication has a cumulative effect. No one on the forum here PERSONALLY knew the Marine. Several on the forum had read your communications before the girl attack, and so through those had formulated ideas of you that would have affected their perception of your judgement of the situation. It had nothing to do with that you weren't in the armed forces. It was a reaction of how you had portrayed yourself on the forum previous to the incident, and their reaction to that.

BUT, if you were walking down the street, got chased by 5 people intending to rob you, you ran, they caught you, pulled a shotgun on you, and two of them jumped on you, and you killed one with a pocket knife and seriously wounded another, the answer is unequivocally NO. You are DEFINITELY wrong. You would NOT be considered a murderer on this forum. There might be POSSIBLY one isolated crackpot on the forum that callled you a murderer and not a hero, but that person would have been ganged up on, rated negative, and out of the forum within a day for calling you that.


Regarding Patrick, I feel very badly for what is happening to him. On initially reading his responses, I disagreed with what he said and the way it came across. Still do. However, he has clarified his intent umpteen times now. No malicious intent. Trying to express some perspective. Agree, disagree, whatever. Regardless, how much is enough? Is it necessary to continue to dogpile on Patrick? Is it necessary to over-use the negative rating system? You may not have liked what he said, but it wasn't in an insulting or intentionally inflammatory enough way, in my opinion, to send the negatives flying.

Goodness. Someone recently said something to the effect of all police should be killed.
JohnnyK JUN 02, 06:44 PM

quote
Originally posted by frontal lobe:


Goodness. Someone recently said something to the effect of all police should be killed.



Now now, that wasn't EXACTLY what he said.. He never made a proactive statement..
Patrick JUN 02, 06:45 PM

quote
Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:

We are all now stupider for having read any of patrics replies.




I suspect you had already reached your limit.