Levi's sports white knots in support of gay marriage (Page 13/31) Carver1 MAY 31, 01:03 PM quote Originally posted by BobadooFunk: you know im gonna have to disagree with this right here... proving something doesnt exist..? really? while i do agree with Phranc on a good majority of his posts (i just wish youd word them slightly different ) i remain what i call "slightly agnostic" open to the possibility or unpossibility of a higher being, but waiting for a sure sign (like physically in front of me kinda sign.) When I say Prove it, I mean just look around. You think all this life on Earth is just a coincidence? Big Bang? Cmon. Anyone with common sense has to realize a higher power CREATED all of this. It is so easy to see. Humans can't grasp the idea in full. We are not built that way. It's all Faith. GT86 MAY 31, 01:11 PM quote Originally posted by Carver1: When I say Prove it, I mean just look around. You think all this life on Earth is just a coincidence? Big Bang? Cmon. Anyone with common sense has to realize a higher power CREATED all of this. It is so easy to see. Humans can't grasp the idea in full. We are not built that way. It's all Faith. The argument has been made that the idea of a "higher power" is attractive to us specifically because we don't understand why and how we are here. Thus, it's easier to believe in an all-powerful creator. If Faith is your basis, you're never going to convince someone else. That's true whether you're religious or not. BobadooFunk MAY 31, 01:23 PM quote Originally posted by GT86: The argument has been made that the idea of a "higher power" is attractive to us specifically because we don't understand why and how we are here. Thus, it's easier to believe in an all-powerful creator. If Faith is your basis, you're never going to convince someone else. That's true whether you're religious or not. couldnt have said it better you cannot convince me to have faith.. like i said. i am open to the possibility of.. but also not acknowledging its existance. using the bible for proof is also a worthless argument (i am not debating whats in it, just the fact that its existace and content, does not prove existance of a "God") Red88FF MAY 31, 01:28 PM If you are against gay marriage I suggest you do not marry a gay This guy put forth this idea on the first page quote Originally posted by tutnkmn: Okay Keep the word marriage. A civil union/partnership with legal rights the same as marriage would be fine. Keep the religious/sacred overtones to hetero couples, that's fine. Problem is most civil unions are not equal in rights of survivorship, personal/real property ownership and many other protections offered by "marriage." I'll call the new unions, oh say.....................................martage. Maybe, ummmm.............................mortage. Oh, too close to mortgage. Really, if you have a problem with this solution then you are nothing more than a busy body. If you believe in god and think that these people will go to hell,,,, than let them make that choice for themselves and stop pushing your agenda on everyone else. It is called free will. Though I rarely agree with many people, I am capable of letting them have their beliefs without getting my panties in a bunch when it does not effect me. I suggest you give it a try. BobadooFunk MAY 31, 01:35 PM quote Originally posted by Red88FF: If you are against gay marriage I suggest you do not marry a gay ha./.. also makes me wonder, if a gay couple has/obtains a child, and the child turns out straight, will they be happy? Red88FF MAY 31, 01:57 PM quote Originally posted by BobadooFunk: ha./.. also makes me wonder, if a gay couple has/obtains a child, and the child turns out straight, will they be happy? Heh, now you did it,,, that's a whole nother can o worms! This is going to go 20 pages. Slayre MAY 31, 02:04 PM quote Originally posted by Phranc: It must be nice to rewrite history. Slavery is slavery. Deut 20:10-11 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries(forced laborers) unto thee, and they shall serve thee. But christians are quick to pick and choose what parts of the bible apply. Just as they are quick to say a word means something else. MY favourite is when say a day isn't a day when you question the fictional account of creation in the bible with facts like dinosaurs. Its ironic that you use the bible to validate your opinion. Boondawg MAY 31, 02:16 PM quote Originally posted by Carver1: Anyone with common sense.................................................. Carver1 MAY 31, 02:49 PM quote Originally posted by Boondawg: My bad. I forgot it's not that common anymore. Phranc MAY 31, 03:31 PM quote Originally posted by madcurl: Yeah, so-called Christians includes everybody regardless of which land, color, or who has the gold, but I'm sure you couldn't see that, right? So called? So they aren't christian because they adhere to christian teachings that slavery was ok.