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hugh
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JUL 08, 03:40 PM
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I agree with Jeff,but before anybody jumps in ,If he does or says anything that I don't agree with I won't hesitate to tell him.That's what friends are for ! So far I have heard many times of threats he has supposedly made ,but to date I haven't seen (that I can recall) any actual statements that are threatening that can be attributed to him.Some people on this thread have accused him of threats,but none have come forward and presented those threats he is supposed to have made.There are some people that are supposed to be representatives of a group and some individuals who obviously don't like Jeff,they are entitled to their dislikes and may have good reasons for them.BUT,they don't have the right to speak for everyone else.Some were elected to speak for their group,but it seems they forgot their responsibility to the whole group and speak only for themselves even though they claim to be protecting the group. I'd be willing to bet a good number of the membership wouldn't know Jeff if he bumped into them.One more thing,how would any of you feel and what would your reactions be if you were accused ,at every turn ,of what has been said of Jeff(true or not)? How would you honestly react?It seems that most of Jeff's posts have been in response to posts for or (mostly)against him. If you really want him to change,let it go.Don't make him keep defending himself.
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avengador1
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JUL 08, 08:46 PM
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Wow! I mean WOW! The things that happened on this forum while I was away on vacation in California. How can people go spreading second hand information and possible outright lies, about things that were supposedly said by Jeff to other people and call it the truth?
I know there are some members here who hate Jeff with a passion, for whatever reason, and cannot let bygones be bygones. That is truly being petty.
Making club rules to exclude a particular person from joining without even given them a chance IS discriminating even if it is legal. I guess this would reflect poorly on any club trying something similar. Why not give Jeff the chance to join and see if he can be a real contributing member instead of making it impossible for him to join? Who knows, you might even get to know the guy better and even become friends. People with closed minds are the reason our world is getting so screwed up.
I bet Jeff is a totally different person in person than what he is on the internet. Next we have those who want to slam RFT at any opportunity they get. Get over it, there are plenty of good PFF members there and on other Fiero forums, so there is no need to talk badly about those forums or their members. Jeff is also a member in good standing on those forums that I know of. Can someone name the other Fiero forum he was banned from as I am a member of many Fiero forums and I don't recall this happening on the ones I know he is a member of?
He also is a member of my forum too, although he hasn't posted in a while because of a former member (Aaron) that was from my forum that I had to ban. He holds the honor of being the only person I have had to ban. I can tell you all that Jeff is welcomed to post there any time he wants to. He also ran a forum whose domain name was bought by Cliff. That forum was resuscitated, along with it's membership, under a similar name, and Jeff is still a member there if he wants to be.
Why is it that a handful of people are out to get Jeff banned from here again? He never did really do anything that awful to deserve this in the first place and now we have a vocal minority pushing to get him banned again.
I suggest that all examine why you have rated Jeff negatively and reconsider your rating. Let's truly let bygones be bygones and move on.
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lurker
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JUL 08, 09:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by avengador1:
Let's truly let bygones be bygones and move on. |
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we've seen this before, more than once.
i'd like to believe he's sincere. i want to believe he's sincere.
but there has to be a reason all this trouble surrounds him. conspiracy theories don't cut it anymore.
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WhiteDevil88
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JUL 08, 11:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by lurker:
but there has to be a reason all this trouble surrounds him. conspiracy theories don't cut it anymore.
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Damn, that makes me sound dangerous. If I was a chick, I'd so totally f*ck me right now!
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fierobear
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JUL 09, 11:03 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
Damn, that makes me sound dangerous. If I was a chick, I'd so totally f*ck me right now! |
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Just think...as a narcissist, you don't need a chick! 
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WhiteDevil88
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JUL 09, 12:02 PM
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So much for letting sleeping dogs lie.
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fierobear
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JUL 09, 12:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
So much for letting sleeping dogs lie. |
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Wow, can't even tell a joke.
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SuperchargedV6
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JUL 09, 12:27 PM
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WhiteDevil88
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JUL 09, 12:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierobear:
Wow, can't even tell a joke.
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No, funny has never been your thing. Sorry. You're awesome at the hateful spite, though.
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fierobear
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JUL 09, 02:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
No, funny has never been your thing. Sorry. You're awesome at the hateful spite, though. |
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That's VERY ironic coming from someone who's made a career doing humor at other's expense.
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