I wrote:

"A BS in some 'whatever' economics degree from some obscure college is nothing. Hell, even a BA/BS from UCLA, ASU, etc. is still an undergradute degree - big friken deal."

First, I didn't mean to put ASU or UCLA on a platform. I think very low of ASU actually, and I don't know much about UCLA. Secondly, GT is a great school with high credibility, but in economics??? Even though I'm not into engineering schools, I have heard the word, "engineering" and GT in the same sentence before.

Lastly, Todd didn't major in engineering; he majored in management or economics, or whatever flowery degree. Thanks for the chuckle too (engineering - economics: same thing). Also, the premise I was interjecting was that an undergraduate degree is not a huge deal to where you can throw it around as if you are now an expert. I have one too; so what?

I think the question should be How much proof can I produce before I get typer's cramp? Do you REALLY need to see it? 'Cause I REALLY don't enjoy the thought of that much work.

I use WORD too Ed. It makes it EASIER if you know what you are doing. I'll give you credit for this much Ed, you're as consistant for a good laugh as Nancy Pelosi who said that the Landslide election of Arnold Schwarzenegger was an "indictment of the BUSH administration." BWAHAHAHAHA!

But go on Ed. Don't ask anyone. You have it ALL figured out. Nothing new to teach you is there?

Low self image huh? Thanks doctor Freud. Does ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME PERSONALLY think a lack of confidence and self-worth defines my personality....at ALL?

BWAHAHAHAHA.

Ed, you are truly priceless. Thank God people like you are out there.

Ed, I say this in a strict desire to get you to lift your head from your computer long enough to take stock of your life. We, who you rail against here regularly, have wives who love us, and children who adore us, and neighbors and friends who come over for BBQs and play games and enjoy LIFE. While you sit there on the 4th of July weekend, woman-less, child-less, friend-less, love-less, spewing a 2 hour long rants of your hate-filled bile and DEMAND a reply from people who are likely doing what people do on the weekend...LIVING. And you sit there and try your hand at psychology on ME????????????? BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Good grief Ed, I'm glad I don't have hate in my soul. What must it be like, I wonder ,to constantly have to compare yourself to others that you perceive as BETTER than you. Note that I never said I was better than you. But I find it terribly interesting that you THINK that I think that I am better than you.

I'm sorry you don't have a degree, a family, achievement, or status in your life. And just like the 9/11 terrorists who have nothing to contribute except their own self pity and loathing I feel sorry for you. And I'm even more sorry that you feel the ONLY way to get respect is to BULLY it out of people instead of earning it through actions. For example, This is a FIERO forum Ed...When is the last time you posted to the TECH or GENERAL Fiero Section? Do I really need to do a search when we know the answer already? What Fiero project have you done lately? I have finished 5 since January (do a search I posted threads on them all). At the same time I have been working on my Masters Degree in Economics, Spend lots of time with my Family, Attend the occassional Fiero event, and work of a full-time job. I have a used book business for one simple reason...I READ LIKE MAD!!! I have no room for all my books so I sell some when I am done. I read more in a day than most people read in a month. Multiply that times my 40 years on this Earth and you can imagine the wealth of info I have crammed into my head. I am not a know it all, I am an ASK IT ALL! That is why I have learned so much. But do you take advantage of that marvelous resource? Do you try to use me to make yourself better, smarter, or more widely experienced? No, you already HAVE all the answers. The reason I know so much Ed is not because I'm better than you, it because I'm not afraid to be vulnerable enough to ASK for help. I want to learn and know more and more about everything all of the time. I'm a knowledge junkie! Which is why I rag on you about the QUOTE box. All you need do is day, "I don't know. Can you help?" It's the easiest thing in the world to do and yet you can't bring yourself to do it because you think it will make you look weak. Tragic.

You spend so much time dwelling on how to MAKE people like you and respect you and admire you that you never LET them like, respect, and admire you. Learn to let others be strong Ed and you may find that RED bar of yours swing a little to the GREEN.

Sorry Ed, you failed again. I have too much self-esteem to find your comments anything but funny.

BTW, did I mention I minored in Psych. (Just cause I know it irks you.)

At the risk of diminshing the impact of the phrase:

HOLY CRAP

... I find myself needing it once again.

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I honestly don't think this is a mere case of someone trying to prove a point any more. Eleven posts in one day to a single thread--that may be some kind of record. My original attempt to showcase his excessively bombastic nature has resulted in the creation of some kind of monster.

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JOURNAL, JULY 6, 2004:

Yesterday I posted some facts which refuted one of test subject A's points. Today, he posted eleven posts to the test thread. He totally ignored my factual information, as expected, and proceeded to repeat his original arguments in their entirety (with additional material besides) and with more arrogance and condescension. His tone has become more belligerent as he demanded a complete refutation of his citations, and he stated that he would not post any more evidence until I answered his evidence. (After this statement was when he re-posted his earlier arguments.)

I then repeated the factual information to test subjects B, C, and D--my mother, my cat, and a random stretch of sidewalk.

Test subject B nodded and commented that it was good news.
Test subject C gave me a dirty look, turned over, and went to sleep.
Test subject D eroded slightly.

With the exception of test subject B, all test subjects showed approximately the same level of listening or reading comprehension. As for test subject D, I observed that someone had scratched the word "lick" into the cement when it was drying. (I have no idea what this means in relation to employment data.)

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Okay, that's a humerous way to put it.

But there's a grain of truth in it. As I stated in my last post, I decided to put out a little factual data to support one of my statements and refute one of yours. Not only did you ignore what I posted; you re-iterated the evidence you'd posted before. Nothing in any of the eleven posts that you spammed the thread with this afternoon even acknowledged that I'd given you some facts to chew on.

And a typical lawyer response too, IMHO--someone presents a piece of inconvenient evidence supporting his statement, bury it under a load of BS.

I'm not even sure I understand what you're trying to say here. His poop smells as bad as mine but it's okay because he lets you know it's going to smell bad?

If I understand your comment about "roses" correctly, you're saying that I've been lying to you about the vailidity of my posts? I don't recall directing any statements your way regarding the validity of my postings. My argument was with I'm Back, in any event, and I was trying to demonstrate why I thought his posts were inconsiderately long and poorly formatted.

& as for "splashing" you're going to have to be a little less allegorical and a little more specific as to what you're talking about.

I'm just indicating that I'm Back SEEMS to post information and it is up to the reader to refute it.. It just seems that you always refute it and at times totally ignore it THEN claim he tried to burry your opinion or retort like the following quote "a typical lawyer response too, IMHO--someone presents a piece of inconvenient evidence supporting his statement, bury it under a load of BS"

I don't like lawyers myself and Ed is definatly NOT a lawyer. If you took the time to get to know him you would fully understand what I mean. The man carries his credibility in a semi trailer in a very tightly guarded and well hidden I'm Back storage depot.

Enough with the sunshine blowing.
I will however lock horns with Ed any time I feel like refuting him OR if I have a question that needs to be answered and I'm sure he will enjoy it as much as I will if he gives an answer that I disagree with.

Lately I tend to agree with him on a VERY important theme, one most Americans and damn near ALL politicians seem to have forgotten about and that goes without saying any more.

I have more respect for a factory worker who does his job manufacturing
real products for our society than I do any so-called "president".

No, not Marxist. Constitutional-Constructionist Libertarian maybe;
if you need to slap a label on my brain.

Overall, all great change in the last couple of thousand years has come
from the individual inventor of technology. Automtic ice-makers are
a brilliant but underated device. Readers of this forum are suspected
fans of the internal combustion engine I think.

"President", hell, thats just another label we invented for our personal comfort.

Don't get me wrong though. We have the least horrible government system in
the known world; in my opinion. At least I can get a cold beer easily in thousands of
locations coast to coast in this country.

I am just naive enough to believe that mankind can create something far better
in the future than what we call the "best" now.

Does power corrupt, or do the corrupt seek power?

Off Soap Box

Yeah, it amazes me too how we expect our elected leaders to walk on water.

Wow. Now there's a point to ponder.