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84Bill
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NOV 12, 02:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by isthiswhereiputausername?:
Geez Bill.. get off your rainbow bandwagon and read what you are saying! As a business owner in these semi free countries (reason I say semi free is because all the rights once put in places decades ago are being pulled away by crying whining people like you) we do haave the rights to choose who we work with.
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Kiss my ass.. I can get on any "band wagon" I want. I do read what I say.. I'm the one who writes it. You call me stupid in so many words but that is the stupidest one I've heard in a while.
As far as "my crying and whining about this being a semi free country.. You FAIL to realise that this is the very reason people need to FIGHT for their equal rights and justice under the law.
Because HATE filled individual are afraid of burning in hell or something as stupid as that it gives them a RIGHT to banish someone else because of the way they part their hair? IT IS OKAY to deny gays fair and equal treatment under the law as American citizens by public entities because "god says so"? Sounds Communist to me. Spade = Spade.
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John as a business owner DOES have the right to choose who he deals with. Dont like it? Dont waste his time or yours trying to soliciate services from him.
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I never said john can not "refuse business" I said he can not refuse business on the BASIS OF (insert hate bias here)
Big difference. Public entities are not allowed to discriminate.. PRIVATE individials... who the hell cares.. it's your PRIVATE business.
There are certin groups I don't like but you don't know about them and even if you did I'm not bias and I wont refuse their business or their tallants as workers. John WILL.. but I wont because I don't hate anyone that much.[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 11-12-2006).]
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DRA
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NOV 12, 02:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
I think you missed the point.. BIG TIME!
"BUT imagine a world where gay is predominent and hetro isnt.. "
IE..... Imagine that being HETRO was not "normal" and YOU were the odd man out.. IE... being discriminated against by GAYS...
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Well that would solve the problem of over population, if that was the case from the beginning I'm sure we would not be here today.
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84Bill
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NOV 12, 02:40 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by isthiswhereiputausername?:
John,
Never Argue With An Idiot. They Will Drag You Down To Their Level, Then Beat You With Experience 
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Dumbass.
Real good advice you cant even follow. 
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84Bill
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NOV 12, 02:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by DRA:
Well that would solve the problem of over population, if that was the case from the beginning I'm sure we would not be here today.
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Moot point.
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Nurb432
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NOV 12, 02:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
Well, there's a legal difference between expressing your views and discriminating against someone because of those views.
Example:
Expressing a vew: White man stands on the street corner and says, "I don't like blacks."
Discrimination: White man at the lunch counter, "We don't serve coloreds here. You'll have to leave."
The legal question is whether or not sexual orientation is protected by the same laws that protect people against racial discrimination.
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If is my private business i will refuse anyone for any reason i see fit. Since i dont receive any governmental assistance, or contracts i have the right.
Now, it may be stupid of me to turn away the business ( $ ), but its still my right.
( there are a few exceptions in the law, like for housing, or as i mentioned before 'with governmental ties', but overall this is true )
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DRA
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NOV 12, 02:46 PM
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I've read good points from both sides of this argument, but as a whole I am sensing intolerance from both sides of the debate.
There really is a point where people should just agree to disagree, in other words respect each others cultures and beliefs.
Because someone would choose not to do business with an openly gay couple would not in my mind automatically make them intolerant or hateful people, if it did then I would have to look very closely into the mirror.
I could go on for hours about the subject but in the end it would just be my opinion, some might agree with it and some may disagree, it's their right to agree or disagree.
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DRA
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NOV 12, 02:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
Moot point. |
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Yes, it would be wouldn't it!
If they can't take a joke, well you know the rest.......
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84Bill
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NOV 12, 02:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by DRA:
Because someone would choose not to do business with an openly gay couple would not in my mind automatically make them intolerant or hateful people, if it did then I would have to look very closely into the mirror.
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Thats true but you arent the one being injured and denied equal treatment by someone elses bias based on X beliefs. If you were and you felt strongly enough that there is an injustice then I'm sure you would see the opposition as hateful individuals. IE. They don't like you, wont hire you or provide a service because you are gay and it counters (insert belief here) .... and thats not bullshit to you?
I'm not even gay and I think it's bullshit![This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 11-12-2006).]
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84Bill
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NOV 12, 02:56 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by DRA:
Yes, it would be wouldn't it!
If they can't take a joke, well you know the rest....... |
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Fire for effect... I know but that was wayyyyyy off.
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isthiswhereiputausername?
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NOV 12, 03:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
Kiss my ass.. I can get on any "band wagon" I want. |
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Yes you can Bill.. And I know what colors that wagon is aiming at
PS.. I am offended at your kiss my ass comment as I am not your type.. I like women..
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