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Raydar
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JUN 01, 10:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Uaana:
Ya, I think most of us can see maybe that's what Patrick was saying.
Unfortunately some of his previous posts have probably colored peoples opinions of him and his posts.
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After Patrick explained himself, I understood where he was coming from. Mostly.
Although this sounded like a bit of a cheap shot...
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Why so defensive?
Sorry if it wrecks the illusion of some 6'5" 350lb muscle-bound guy being handed his ass.
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As if to minimize the Marine's courage? Makes me wonder.
As for the "some of his previous posts" comment, I would tend to agree. Sorry.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 06-01-2006).]
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FieroOilAnalyst
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JUN 01, 10:12 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
FieroOilAnalyst, before I even get a chance to thank you for having the guts to voice your opinion when it appears to go against the crowd here, you already appear to be backing down. I’m disappointed to say the least...  |
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Nah...not backing down...just laughing at myself for the FOA confusion thing. I read what I read and I voiced how I took it.
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 10:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by FieroOilAnalyst:
Nah...not backing down...just laughing at myself for the FOA confusion thing. I read what I read and I voiced how I took it.
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Sorry, maybe I'm getting shell-shocked here. 
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 10:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86:
Are women given special consideration when they participate in crimes?
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As I’ve already stated earlier on this page, I felt it was newsworthy that a pregnant 17 year old girl was participating in armed robbery. Somehow this is being turned around by many people to appear that I felt she should’ve received “special consideration”. I don’t know how many more ways I can state that this was never my intention.
| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86:
For the record, I haven't negged you, there has been no reason to in this thread. Anyone who has is an idiot, and they can quote me on that when they neg me.
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Fastback, thanks for stating that.
I just checked over the ratings I’ve given people on this forum, and there’s a grand total of 20 people I’ve given negatives to over the years. Most of those people are not even members here anymore. Believe it or not, not one person involved in this thread has ever received a negative from me. Honest. However, as you might imagine, that could change.
What really galls me are all the ignorant spineless cowards who look over a couple of posts in a thread and then give people negative ratings. They haven’t got the guts or the brains to engage in a rational discussion, but they nonetheless rate people at the slightest whim.
I’d like to see who has real balls here. Who has given me a negative rating due to what has been stated in this thread?
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FieroOilAnalyst
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JUN 01, 10:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Sorry, maybe I'm getting shell-shocked here.
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No worries.
I think it says a lot that the Marine feels remorseful. He used deadly force to save his own life yet he feels bad for the outcome. That does, in my opinion, show that while there are some really screwed up people in this world, there are also some real winners. This Marine is one of those winners.
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 10:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by FieroOilAnalyst:
I think it says a lot that the Marine feels remorseful. He used deadly force to save his own life yet he feels bad for the outcome. That does, in my opinion, show that while there are some really screwed up people in this world, there are also some real winners. This Marine is one of those winners.
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Agreed. I watched the video where the damn news crew interviewed him at his front door. (I don't agree with them doing that.) You could tell he was genuinely choked up about the whole thing. No bullsh!t bravado from this guy.
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Wichita
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JUN 01, 10:59 PM
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He was acting on instinct and his traning kicked in, and he probably does feel bad.
Also! She wasn't pregnant.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/0530marine.html?imw=Y
Plus! I don't think people are giving you Negs Patrick. Get over youself.
And if you wanted to know. I have you a positive a long time ago. We are polar opposites, but that isn't enough to giv a neg in my world. You're actually a good debater.
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Roylmohr
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JUN 01, 11:20 PM
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What do you do with criminals? I would have defended myself and my wife. It is unfortunate but I defend the Marines actions and wish him well. God be with those how have been killed and them still with us.
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 11:30 PM
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Wichita, this pregnancy issue was something which was reported by the news media. The girl's own mother said she was pregnant in the news video. What are us mere mortals expected to do, consult with the girls gynecologist?
You can "think" all you want about my negative ratings, but that doesn't change the fact that prior to this thread, I had 125 ratings, about 35% negative and 65% positive. Look at my ratings now. At one point (a couple of hours ago) with 135 ratings, the majority was in the red. You do the math... (In the last half hour or so, the ratings have crept up to about 50/50.)
| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
And if you wanted to know. I have you a positive a long time ago. We are polar opposites, but that isn't enough to giv a neg in my world. You're actually a good debater.
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Well, as I suspect, it’s the ignorant spineless cowards who don’t even debate who throw the negatives around.
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 11:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
After Patrick explained himself, I understood where he was coming from. Mostly.
Although this sounded like a bit of a cheap shot...
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Why so defensive? I simply stated a fact from the above link.
Sorry if it wrecks the illusion of some 6'5" 350lb muscle-bound guy being handed his ass.
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
As if to minimize the Marine's courage? Makes me wonder.
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My response was to counteract the sensationist heading of the original news story, “Midtown Rambo; Victim Fight Backs, Kills Robber” and two posts by DtheC at the beginning of this thread. Both the news heading and the posts by DtheC seemed to me to be glorifying the killing of the robber. By making it clear that the robber was not some huge guy, not some hardened criminal, I was only attempting to take some of the “glory” out of the killing. The "handed his ass" part was actually paraphrased from one of DtheC's posts. If you saw the video I referred to in a previous post of the Marine, you’d know that even he would probably be horrified to be compared to “Rambo” in this situation.
I have said nothing, absolutely nothing to discredit the Marine in this thread.
| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
As for the "some of his previous posts" comment, I would tend to agree. Sorry.
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Another cheap shot with nothing to back it up. Thanks Raydar.
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