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84Bill JUL 06, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by fierobear:
There he goes, calling people "nazis" again.

Is there a problem officer?

84Bill JUL 06, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by I'm Back:

When people refer to Kerry as a waffler I must laugh. All people must be able to modify their position as life changes, which is a very Darwinian approach.


I agree.. BUT I'm still voting independant.
Probably why I will never again use the comparison between deaths of soldiers in Iraq to the deaths on US highways.

84Bill JUL 06, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by I'm Back:


Well, does the shoe fit?


I recomend he try on the boots before answering that question.

Toddster JUL 06, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by I'm Back:

"You spent two hours in the middle of the day from 1:28 pm to 3:28 pm on a beautiful Saturday, one day before a National Holiday, typing a ranting post on a chat site? "

First of all, it was immediately before I left for Vegas, so that time was largely boxed in if you know what I mean. Secondly, what's wrong with spending time the way I want? Maybe I'm nocturnal . Why focus your response on the my use of time rather than for substantive counter-arguments? Although your guess was right that I spent 2 hours right before my flight left, I could have typed it in the middle of the night and finished it at noon. Lastly, you are wrong, my flight left at 2:00, so I was out the door by 1:00, which means I spent from about 11:00 am to 1:00 pm.

"Did it occur to you that Ed has a life and might have been celebrating America's birthday with friends and family this weekend?"

I was celebrating the 4th of July with family; I was in Vegas with my GF. As for America's birthday, America, both North America and South America have been here for longer than July 4, 1776, so I dismiss that remark based upon blind patriotism. Is the birthday of the United States really July 4, 1776? We were still colonial then, so how could it be? It's a little semantic to refer to the birth of an ideology based upon the act of stealing a chunk of land and earmarking it with a day of celebration as a birthday.

Why are you so concerned with the way I spend my days off? Or for that matter, if I spend them typing, reading or vacationing? Does that somehow support your Ad Hominem? Or is that the entirety of your Ad Hominem?

"Get a life."

I have a very (too) full life. I went to Vegas and had fun. I won't lie as you did and claim I won 33k dollars, but I had fun. I went light and bet about 10 baseball games each day, played some craps and blackjack and had fun; how is that not having a life?

Whereas you're angrily typing away at your computer inquiring as to why I don't have a life when I'm in Vegas; are you for real?


A sincere man wouldn't have felt the need to write War and Peace in reply to this. He'd have let it go.

Toddster JUL 06, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Steve Normington:

WHAT IS THE BLOODY DEAL IF ED DOESN'T USE THE FREAKIN' QUOTE TAG?!!?!?


Have no idea why an obvious answer to a rhetorical question needs an answer but OK.

Can you read Ed's posts?

I mean in a literal sense, not philisophical (we can save that rant for another time).

I can't! I can't tell when he is quoting someone and when he is ranting. He misplaces the quote marks 50% of the time and even when he DOES place them in the correct place he doesn't use bold lettering or italics to distinguish his rantings from the quote.

At first I though he did this on purpose as a childish means of annoying the readers do I ASKED him to stop. When he kept doing it I assumed I was being ignored and then TOLD him it wasn't appreciated and to please post properly so as to make his post readable. Ignored again. Well, as the months went by I noticed some HALF/HALF posts where he would have one quote in the box and other quotes in quotation marks making reading even twice as hard.

That is when I realized that the guy simply didn't know HOW to use the quote function. But the arrogant know-it-all couldn't bother to ask anyone how to do it (that certainly explains his ignorance on just about everything from Law to Economics). Since one never learns by walking around as the authority on everything but learns by asking sh*tloads of questions I put it to him directly...why don't you just ask how to do it. He replied with some bizarre complicated process of opening other windows and copy/paste etc. which confirmed my hypothesis. The guy doesn't know how to do it but MORE importantly ios too proud to ask for help.

THAT is why we all rag on him about it.

ASK FOR HELP or remain ignorant. That is not just a PFF observation, it is a life lesson.

I'm Back JUL 06, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:


"He misplaces the quote marks 50% of the time and even when he DOES place them in the correct place he doesn't use bold lettering or italics to distinguish his rantings from the quote."

Can you provide proof of me misplacing quotation marks? When you write your papers, or fingerpaint at school as the case may be, do you use bold lettering to establish a quoted statement?

"That is when I realized that the guy simply didn't know HOW to use the quote function."

Not at all, I well know how to use either format. I choose to use the format I do because it is easier to transcribe a complete thought down and throw quotes on it. I often use WORD to compose my posts and the quotebox function makes it a pain.

"But the arrogant know-it-all couldn't bother to ask anyone how to do it (that certainly explains his ignorance on just about everything from Law to Economics). Since one never learns by walking around as the authority on everything but learns by asking sh*tloads of questions I put it to him directly...why don't you just ask how to do it. He replied with some bizarre complicated process of opening other windows and copy/paste etc. which confirmed my hypothesis. The guy doesn't know how to do it but MORE importantly ios too proud to ask for help."

First, the arrogant remark. I won't put it to a vote as you would, but I think that is your trademark even by, "your own." I think most people feel it is due to your self-inadaquate opinion. To support this I would assert you often trying to press yourself off as someone older than you actually are. Also, this academic elitist policy you attempt to invoke. A BS in some 'whatever' economics degree from some obscure college is nothing. Hell, even a BA/BS from UCLA, ASU, etc. is still an undergradute degree - big friken deal. Guys like Frontal Lobe likely look at guys like you attempting to make volumes out of your puny little undergraduate degree as wanna-bees. Todd, pinch yourself; when a person finds themself trying to overestimate their own intelligence they have a low self-image.

"THAT is why we all rag on him about it."

No, it is a diversion from the issue.

"That is not just a PFF observation, it is a life lesson."

Thanks, but I'm going to look quite a bit older and volumes wiser if I want life lessons.

I'm Back JUL 06, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:


A sincere man wouldn't have felt the need to write War and Peace in reply to this. He'd have let it go.



Another coward dodging the issues with rhetoric. Todd, even guys in your own corner watch you selectively answer posts. You write some garble if you find yourself unable to answer.

fierobear JUL 06, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by I'm Back:


That was more of a rhetorical question .


No, it was an insult and an inappropriate comparison. Nice try, though.

84Bill JUL 06, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:


A sincere man wouldn't have felt the need to write War and Peace in reply to this. He'd have let it go.


Jesus....

A sincere man would stand by his convictions and NEVER let them go.. To me that is the measure of a mans soul and Ed (I'm Back) has alot of it. He is not one to give up when it all seems hopeless, he argues his case with dedication to his own cause, he fights for a cause that has not only his own good in mind but the good of all. I'm not sure if I'm Back served in the armed forces but his sacrefices on the field of political battle are truley honorable and commendable in that respect. Pay him this due at the very least, he earns it.

You still have a positive in my book (not that it matters) because you compell me to write of men and character. So even your derogatory rhetoric regarding I'm Back's methods and unseen motivations. I can see a man of character from 1000 yards and I can pick him off with a single shot. You may thing I'm shooting at you but I'm not.... just yet, I'm giving Ed (I'm Back) more ammunition to fight with because I understand him and his aim seems to be better than mine and I trust his judgement... to a larger degree.

Damn war mongers... I freakin hate them, they fight wars over stipid **** , for the stupidest reasons and destroy people for the sheer pleasure of watching them die.. It's truley disgusting and IMHO very un-American.

Keep it up Toddster, you're pounding sand like a storm trooper with bad aim.


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Originally posted by Toddster:


Have no idea why an obvious answer to a rhetorical question needs an answer but OK.

Can you read Ed's posts?

I mean in a literal sense, not philisophical (we can save that rant for another time).

I can't! I can't tell when he is quoting someone and when he is ranting. He misplaces the quote marks 50% of the time and even when he DOES place them in the correct place he doesn't use bold lettering or italics to distinguish his rantings from the quote.

At first I though he did this on purpose as a childish means of annoying the readers do I ASKED him to stop. When he kept doing it I assumed I was being ignored and then TOLD him it wasn't appreciated and to please post properly so as to make his post readable. Ignored again. Well, as the months went by I noticed some HALF/HALF posts where he would have one quote in the box and other quotes in quotation marks making reading even twice as hard.

That is when I realized that the guy simply didn't know HOW to use the quote function. But the arrogant know-it-all couldn't bother to ask anyone how to do it (that certainly explains his ignorance on just about everything from Law to Economics). Since one never learns by walking around as the authority on everything but learns by asking sh*tloads of questions I put it to him directly...why don't you just ask how to do it. He replied with some bizarre complicated process of opening other windows and copy/paste etc. which confirmed my hypothesis. The guy doesn't know how to do it but MORE importantly ios too proud to ask for help.

THAT is why we all rag on him about it.

ASK FOR HELP or remain ignorant. That is not just a PFF observation, it is a life lesson.


Cry me a river.

More sandbagging may help... keep pounding away.

The river you were initially forging is over there and now you are pounding sand in two different directions.. LOL

Care to create a third with me?

I'm Back JUL 06, 01:01 PM
Edhering, let me show you an example of how people intelligently refute claims. I will take #1 of my above post as an example.

I wrote:

"1.The Overtime Bill
- http://www.aflcio.org/yourjobeconomy/overtimepay/ns01222004.cfm?RenderForPrint=1
- The omnibus appropriations bill is a factual reference that includes the Overtime Bill. The Overtime Bill is designed to unilaterally allow employers to relegate employees to salary status, require unlimited working hours without having to pay overtime wages."

OK, to make an intelligent refutation to this argument, you would have to make any or all of the following types of counter arguments:

A. establish there is no such thing as the Overtime Bill.
B. establish it has not yet passed
C. argue they won't implement it
D. argue the law will have no teeth and be unenforceable
E. somehow argue government regulation of this kind of thing is a positive thing
F. take a position that workers like RN's, cops, firefighters make too much money anyway and their occupations need regulating


And when you establish these arguments, you should do so with some kind of evidence that is considered factual or reasonable. Arguments like: "my daddy said that's all I need in life, so that good enough for me and Jesus" simply aren't arguments that should be heard by anyone outside a person's own mind. I'm not projecting that argument to you, but if you want to argue in forums with a variety of personalities, that's how it's done. If you are at a church with an assimilated group of people, arguments like that work well, as they aren't contradicting dissent, but enforcing an already believed ideology. It's easy to argue with people that have the same ideologies as the arguer does, as there is no dissent, or should be no dissent.