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84Bill
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JUL 10, 10:19 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by fogglethorpe: Well, thanks Bill! I think we'll get along.
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Sure thing? I don't think Ed should be banned because he is ignorant, arrogant and opinionated. He is just a foulable as the next guy. The question I have is... Should he put the "foggles" on, take the "foggles" off or just keep swinging a big stick in a room (thread) full of smoke and mirrors? I don't agree with Ed's attack on you using the racist slant because I really would like to believe Ed is not a raciest. It troubles me to think my beliefs are wrong. But hey! I'm an idiot.  Sig test?  opps.. wrong sig. ------------------ [This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-10-2004).]
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hugh
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JUL 10, 01:23 PM
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This is probably going to be my last post on this subject. Ed,I don't like you,but I won't question your honesty for a second.Your interpretation of things that are written on this forum is out of context with what is really meant.This isn't the 1st time we have had a problem between us,but that is private and I will honor that.You brought my wife,whom I love dearly and have been married to for almost 43 years,into an arguement that neither she or I have a desire to participate in.If you have a problem with my son,keep it there and please exclude my family from any more of your arguements. Just so people know: A few years ago I bought seatbelts from Ed for my 88GT.The shipping was more than he had expected.I sent him a check for the $18 extra that it cost him and he tore it up because we had agreed on the lesser price. I cannot shake the picture of him as an honest man and this causes me to find it hard to dislike him,but his actions on this forum pertaining to me are more than I can tolerate.
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I'm Back
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JUL 10, 01:56 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by hugh: This is probably going to be my last post on this subject. Ed,I don't like you,but I won't question your honesty for a second.Your interpretation of things that are written on this forum is out of context with what is really meant.This isn't the 1st time we have had a problem between us,but that is private and I will honor that.You brought my wife,whom I love dearly and have been married to for almost 43 years,into an arguement that neither she or I have a desire to participate in.If you have a problem with my son,keep it there and please exclude my family from any more of your arguements. Just so people know: A few years ago I bought seatbelts from Ed for my 88GT.The shipping was more than he had expected.I sent him a check for the $18 extra that it cost him and he tore it up because we had agreed on the lesser price. I cannot shake the picture of him as an honest man and this causes me to find it hard to dislike him,but his actions on this forum pertaining to me are more than I can tolerate. |
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Our feelings of each other are mutual. You are an honst man. As for your wife being brought into this, that is too indirect. First, I didn't know you were Foggle's father. Secondly, I threw it out there to counter his hate-post and I threw it out there as a 'wife/mom must have been had by a homey' to piss him off and return the insults, again, as a counter to his ignorant thread. There are many aspects to this matter you ignore like this thread at all; what do you think of your boy for starting a thread like this? Is he a chip off the ole block, or are you nauseated like most other PFFers? Instead you chose to ignore the offenses he has created and focus on the one that was not personal by any measure and take it personally. I didn't mean this to include you or your family, and there is no way I could have since I didn't know you were Foggle's father.
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84Bill
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JUL 10, 02:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by hugh: Just so people know: A few years ago I bought seatbelts from Ed for my 88GT.The shipping was more than he had expected.I sent him a check for the $18 extra that it cost him and he tore it up because we had agreed on the lesser price. I cannot shake the picture of him as an honest man and this causes me to find it hard to dislike him,but his actions on this forum pertaining to me are more than I can tolerate. |
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You are a big man Hugh and I admire you for that. You have alot of heart and that is what I like most about you. A year ago Hugh came to my house to buy a set of 84 speeker seats. I told him 20 bucks for both but insisted on 40. At the time I was out of work but money was not the reason I sold the seats, I sold them because Hugh needed them and I needed to clear my garage of some fiero stuff. I just wanted to share that with the forum.
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84Bill
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JUL 10, 02:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by I'm Back:
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Ed... Just apologize for god sakes!! I really really want to put this crap behind us bro.
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84Bill
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JUL 10, 03:36 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by EDsB52: Our feelings of each other are mutual. You are an honst man. As for your wife being brought into this, that is too indirect.
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Ok Ed.. fogglethorpe "fired the first shot" it obviously found it's mark.. Ok?
| quote | Originally posted by EDsB52: First, I didn't know you were Foggle's father.
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A preface for the following mitigation of the fact that you fired back at fogglethorpe and inadvertantly hit an innocent bystander. Take some responsibility... Oh wait theres more...
| quote | Originally posted by EDsB52: Secondly, I threw it out there to counter his hate-post
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The weak mitigation for slandering an innocent victim.
| quote | Originally posted by EDsB52: and I threw it out there as a 'wife/mom must have been had by a homey' to piss him off and return the insults, again, as a counter to his ignorant thread.
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With ignorance that begets ignorance. Problem is foggle did not come off as arrogant when taken into consideration that many on this forum (including myself ) LOVED IT!!!
| quote | Originally posted by EDsB52: There are many aspects to this matter you ignore like this thread at all; what do you think of your boy for starting a thread like this?
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The weak excuse for your inept actions and a further slap in Hughs (the Fathers) face.
| quote | Originally posted by EDsB52: Is he a chip off the ole block, or are you nauseated like most other PFFers?
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You dare question the loyalties of a father for his son? Dear god Ed.. You disgust me!
| quote | Originally posted by EDsB52: Instead you chose to ignore the offenses he has created and focus on the one that was not personal by any measure and take it personally.
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And you continue to slap away the hand of a man you punched and continue to punch him in the face .. Get real buddy.. better yet GET LOST!
| quote | Originally posted by EDsB52: I didn't mean this to include you or your family,
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You are an arrogant piece of crap Ed.... You mean every word of it you coward... go slink off back under the rock you slithered from.
| quote | Originally posted by EDsB52: and there is no way I could have since I didn't know you were Foggle's father. |
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Nor do you even seem to care about Hugh or his father Hugh... you are a poor excuse for a human being! To think I actually harbored you as a friend... You make me want to barf my freakin guts out!! You are guilty of slander, racism and have displayed blatent disregard for the general feelings of all parties concerend including myself. You have demonstrated an inability to take responsibility for your actions and refuse to apologize to the people you victimized.. GUILTY!! The smoking gun is still in your hand Ed... DROP IT or I'll shoot and keep shooting until you have been subdued and man you are going to hate me for it I can assure you. [This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-10-2004).]
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I'm Back
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JUL 10, 04:07 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by psycho-freak stalker AKA:84Bill: I know I'm a freak and have vowed to follow you around even though it trashes the forum. I will follow you everywhere on the forum even though Cliff likely doesn't appreciate it either.
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| quote | | Originally posted by psycho-freak stalker AKA:84Bill: If I were a man at all I would simply be rejoiced by having the last word like 10 times over, but that isn't enough, I will hound you until the forum becomes garbage because I don't care about the forum.
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| quote | | Originally posted by psycho-freak stalker AKA:84Bill: BTW, I'm a freak. |
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| quote | | Originally posted by psycho-freak stalker AKA:84Bill: Did I say I was a freak?
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| quote | | Originally posted by psycho-freak stalker AKA:84Bill: My therapist said I would have episodes like this.
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| quote | | Originally posted by psycho-freak stalker AKA:84Bill: Don't tell the guys down at the funny farm that I'm playing on the internet (I'm not supposed to you know).
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| quote | | Originally posted by psycho-freak stalker AKA:84Bill: BTW, I have an identity problem and need to be intimately involved with people or get a little psycho and insecure.
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| quote | | Originally posted by psycho-freak stalker AKA:84Bill: BTW, I hate those suits where you are bound to hug yourself.
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Geez .....
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fogglethorpe
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JUL 10, 04:08 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by I'm Back: Our feelings of each other are mutual. You are an honst man. As for your wife being brought into this, that is too indirect. First, I didn't know you were Foggle's father. Secondly, I threw it out there to counter his hate-post and I threw it out there as a 'wife/mom must have been had by a homey' to piss him off and return the insults, again, as a counter to his ignorant thread. There are many aspects to this matter you ignore like this thread at all; what do you think of your boy for starting a thread like this? Is he a chip off the ole block, or are you nauseated like most other PFFers? Instead you chose to ignore the offenses he has created and focus on the one that was not personal by any measure and take it personally.
I didn't mean this to include you or your family, and there is no way I could have since I didn't know you were Foggle's father. |
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Ed, your words condemn you. You accuse me of being racist and hateful because you yourself harbor stereotypes about people. You need to deal with that issue. Since you have no ammunition, you stoop to making blanket accusations and insults against my family, whom you do not, nor will you ever, have the privilege to know. That speaks volumes about you. If you don't like what I write, you shouldn't read it. Now go away. ------------------ Ban Ed again.
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I'm Back
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JUL 10, 04:32 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by fogglethorpe: |
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"Ed, your words condemn you. You accuse me of being racist and hateful because you yourself harbor stereotypes about people. You need to deal with that issue."
Go look at the first post in this thread and see who is the racist. Then look at my explanation that describes how your post was racist and hateful. Then, if you can muster anything but rhetoric, actually answer those remarks, all of them. "Since you have no ammunition, you stoop to making blanket accusations and insults against my family, whom you do not, nor will you ever, have the privilege to know. That speaks volumes about you." I don't know your family, how can I make direct remarks to them? I merely conjectured that since you have a problem with people that use jargon typical of African Americans that you may have been damaged by them in that way. My ammunition, as you put it, is found in the post where I explained how your statements are racist via culture denogration. "If you don't like what I write, you shouldn't read it." Same to ya. "Now go away." Fine, you get the last word and that will be the last we refer/post to each other. That can work for Hugh as well. But you must show a goodwill gesture and remove that ridiculous signature. If you want the war/BS to mutually stop you will do this, if not, you like the dissention.
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fogglethorpe
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JUL 10, 04:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by I'm Back: Go look at the first post in this thread and see who is the racist. Then look at my explanation that describes how your post was racist and hateful. |
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Look at it? I wrote it. Remember?
| quote | | Fine, you get the last word and that will be the last we refer/post to each other. That can work for Hugh as well. But you must show a goodwill gesture and remove that ridiculous signature. If you want the war/BS to mutually stop you will do this, if not, you like the dissention. |
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Good will? There is no more good will between us. And, unless Cliff requests I remove it, the signature stays. [This message has been edited by fogglethorpe (edited 07-10-2004).]
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