wow, that's funny

is that all you can say after I clearly showed you above that it's possible to make it on that income...eventhough you did your best to try and make it look impossible. that was what we were talking about until you made the intelligent comment above

Now apply those numbers to a family of 3,4, or 5 and tell me where your at. Because the median income in the U.S. is only $42,409 which is about $18 per hour plus a few hours of overtime throughout the year.

from cnn http://money.cnn.com/2004/04/12/news/economy/election_incomes/

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I don't have unemployment benefits because I exhausted them last year. I did have a few computer consulting jobs during and after it ran out but the problem is the pickens have gotten VERY slim. My job still exists but there are very few and at this stage of the game I can't accept less. In other words I won't work 2 crap jobs because I might miss an oppertunity to get the one I want if I stop looking as hard as I have been. I simply must be the first and the best in line, problem is there aren't many lines and the ones I hit evaporate instantly!

If I get the good job it will come with retirement (401 or whatever) and medical benefits. So basically yes I am planning my future without compromize.This way bot myself and my employer will be happy. I can afford to be picky at this young age of 39, I'm not a prime candidate for education re-education in the eyes of most employers, I already have most of the tools I need to get my job done very efficiently.

My idea is (and the price is steep) to hold on as long as I can to get what I want. I have just enough breething room but I must admit it has been a sacrefice. I'm a happy go lucky guy even though my life appears to be in shambels but if you have read any of my posts in the religious threads you know why my shambeled life does not bother me. It's just a dearm.

Hello????? we were talking about a single person living on that income buddy. That was the idea...Bill having a job with that pay. I made my point with real numbers (it is possible) and now you want to stretch the argument to how that income would be for a family? We were talking about a SINGLE person from the get go.

Show you how we're better off today than we were 30 years ago? DId I ever imply that we were? I wouldn't say we're living in some kind of pre-civil war like some people like to think. What other things did I magically say while I was away from the computer? Our only argument was how a single person could make it on $36000 a year. You questioned it, I gave you numbers, and now it's over.

Whoa man you need to get out more often and release some stress. I originally compared your numbers to my situation and applied that to a family living today. If you read my posts, I realized we were talking about a single after someone actually mentioned he was living single, and I corrected myself and admitted I thought we were talking about a family. I thought Bill had a family living with him. I at that point was only arguing the difference in cost of living from 4 years ago. I then posed the question of how that would translate to a family household and mentioned how the median household income is about the same amount. Obviously you were just waiting to have your say instead of actually LISTENING to what others have to say for a change. There was no twisting or stretching on my part, just reasonable questioning.

Here is where I mention I thought we were speaking about a family income, and also where I state that your numbers don't seem to reflect any inflation which I thought was relevant.

and here is where I ASK whether those numbers could sustain a family and how that compares to where the average was 30 years ago.

Besides isn't it OK to evolve a discussion onto a new topic? Which is in this case closely related to what Bill's original post was about.... the current situation in America. Albeit he was speaking from his perspective, but talking in general terms.

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