The Last Text - A documentary on the dangers of texting while driving... (Page 11/20)
Kekipi DEC 31, 12:18 PM
This thread reminds me of the part on The Breakfast Club where the teacher is asking the student if he wants more detention. U know the one about raiding Berry Manilow's closet.
84fiero123 DEC 31, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

- remember - Black and White vs Gray?



How gray is that when it is the red blood of you or your passengers?

Because you were looking down and a deer runs out in frt. of you and goes through the windshield.

Steve

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Technology is great when it works,
and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't.
Detroit iron rules all the rest are just toys.

phonedawgz DEC 31, 03:44 PM
I've hit two deer that have run out in front of me. Not a whole lot you can do when that happens. Do you refuse to change the station on the radio when driving so you have your eyes always looking forward for deer? Do you refuse to answer your cell phone? Never eat or drink even coffee when driving?
rogergarrison DEC 31, 04:04 PM
Heres a new twist. Maybe they should do away with texting period. I went to the store in the van. Im pulling out of the lot with a green light and some dumb ass girl walks right into the passenger side front door with the top of her head. She flew to the ground with her cell phone laying right next to her. She was alright and no damage to the door....said she didnt see me. Theres nothing near the sidewalk, my light is green, my van is a green hi top. Shes just lucky i wasnt a semi truck.
maryjane DEC 31, 04:12 PM

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Do you refuse to change the station on the radio when driving so you have your eyes always looking forward for deer? Do you refuse to answer your cell phone? Never eat or drink even coffee when driving?



Are those illegal?

Do you contend, that it if a person has never had a wreck while they were under the influence of booze, and thus maintain that they will never kill anyone because of it--that it is acceptable behavior and a logical thought process?

Why is it, that you spend so much time and effort deflecting and spinning the conversation away from your behaviour, and onto something abstract?

It's called rationalization, and drunk drivers & streetracers have done it for decades and decades.

Eating or drinking coffee? Not good, but the difference is, almost everyone here (including myself) will readily admit they are indeed, distractions and not a good policy. No hiding behind a rationalization or spin--or gray area--the only one hiding behind that "gray area is you, and i doubt a simple fine will stop you from doing it. Killing someone "might", but that's for you to decide--if "K" is worth someone else's life.

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phonedawgz DEC 31, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Are those illegal?



If they are legal does that mean they are safe? My point has been that people see safety as black and white. I know a guy who ran into the back of a parked car cause he was changing tapes in his radio. Yep it's legal to do those things. And in some states it's legal to text. Does 'illegal' make them any more safe or unsafe?



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Why is it, that you spend so much time and effort deflecting and spinning the conversation away from your behaviour, and onto something abstract?



My first post on this thread was about the abstract idea that safety isn't black and white. It's others who keep on wanting to change the conversation to something about me. I have been called immoral because I drive the speed the rest of the traffic drives. I still stand by my statement, that safety is not black and white.


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Eating or drinking coffee? Not good, but the difference is, almost everyone here (including myself) will readily admit they are indeed, distractions and not a good policy.



AND THEN THEY DO THESE THINGS. And they continue to do these things. And people don't call them immoral. Somehow people see these as innocent but are more than willing to condemn the people other things they have villainized.

I have clearly stated that everything you do in your car other than drive is a distraction. I have also stated that even just driving your car is dangerous. It's one of the most dangerous things we do. However you can't use that to condemn one particular action and not condemn other actions that involve the same distraction.


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No hiding behind a rationalization or spin--or gray area--the only one hiding behind that "gray area is you, and i doubt a simple fine will stop you from doing it. Killing someone "might", but that's for you to decide--if "K" is worth someone else's life.



If someone could explain how pushing the same number of keystrokes, of needing to still glance at the phone, is somehow black or instead white depending on if it's a text or phone call.

Again I am talking about sending the letter "k" and calling to say OK. Clearly there are quite a number of people here that see one as very black and one as white. It has been said one is 100 times more dangerous than the other.

Now if someone can explain how one of THOSE two actions are 100 times more dangerous, there is a good chance that would convince me not to do it.

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I'll let this thing run for a while but one thing is becoming quite clear to me. That I will revel later.

[This message has been edited by phonedawgz (edited 12-31-2010).]

rogergarrison DEC 31, 04:41 PM
Things are usually deemed unsafe because statistics back up the premise. Theres a town here like i said that will ticket you for any of the above actions if they see you.
phonedawgz DEC 31, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Things are usually deemed unsafe because statistics back up the premise. Theres a town here like i said that will ticket you for any of the above actions if they see you.



But there are clearly people on here that see some of these actions as ok and others as bad
maryjane DEC 31, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

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If someone could explain how pushing the same number of keystrokes, of needing to still glance at the phone, is somehow black or instead white depending on if it's a text or phone call.

Again I am talking about sending the letter "k" and calling to say OK. Clearly there are quite a number of people here that see one as very black and one as white. It has been said one is 100 times more dangerous than the other.

Now if someone can explain how one of THOSE two actions are 100 times more dangerous, there is a good chance that would convince me not to do it.

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I'll let this thing run for a while but one thing is becoming quite clear to me. That I will revel later.




All that, and you still didn't/couldn't answer a simple question.


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Do you contend, that it if a person has never had a wreck while they were under the influence of booze, and thus maintain that they will never kill anyone because of it--that it is acceptable behavior and a logical thought process?



Would you care to answer, or will you just continue to rationalize more, with your "all those wrongs make a right" type garbage?
Everyone does unsafe things while behind the wheel, but almost all admit they are unsafe. Except you. You contend, that because what you do is no more unsafe than another infraction, it is not unsafe at all--hence your "gray" song and dance.
phonedawgz DEC 31, 05:27 PM
Yep I saw it. I ignored it and hoped you wouldn't bring it back up.

To compare distractions to impaired driving skills isn't legit. I won't answer arguments to that point. Texting is a distraction. It doesn't impair judgment. I'll answer arguments to distractions however.