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Cadillac Jack
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JUN 01, 07:01 PM
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Patrick,
I hope you don't feel that I am a member of a lynch mob. I have no desire to be a member of a lynch mob or any other group. I did not intend to attack you, or even to critcize you. I only wanted to discuss an issue that I feel needs discussed and clarify what you thought. Perhaps someday we can try again. I am truly sorry if I have offended you.
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 07:52 PM
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Jack, I’m not looking for apologies from you or anyone else. People can say what they wish (within reason), that’s what a forum is all about. I have to admit however, that I find it unbelievable that I’ve picked up about 20 negative ratings over this one topic. I could’ve started a thread about killing puppies and eating kittens and received less criticism.
I thought your questions were basically answered in my posts following your last post. There is so much being focused on the fact that this girl was pregnant. Yes, I mentioned it in an early post of mine, and almost everybody has jumped all over that. Why? Is it common in every city in the States that pregnant 17 year old girls are committing armed robbery? As far as I know, it isn’t common in my neck of the woods. That to me was newsworthy. Good gawd, let’s shoot the messenger!
Or is it the following that you feel wasn’t touched upon?:
| quote | Originally posted by Cadillac Jack:
But it seems as though, and there again maybe I'm putting words in your mouth, that you think this all happened because "it's a screwed up world".
It's my belief it's a screwed up world because these things happen.
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If this is what you're still wondering about, I think it’s a chicken and egg situation. Who really knows for sure which is responsible for what? I certainly don’t know. If I had to choose, I’d agree with your assessment that it's a screwed up world because these things happen.
Jack, your posts were fine. I’m not the least bit ticked off with you.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 06-01-2006).]
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Wichita
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JUN 01, 08:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Jack, I’m not looking for apologies from you or anyone else. People can say what they wish (within reason), that’s what a forum is all about. I have to admit however, that I find it unbelievable that I’ve picked up about 20 negative ratings over this one topic. I could’ve started a thread about killing puppies and eating kittens and received less criticism.
I thought your questions were basically answered in my posts following your last post. There is so much being focused on the fact that this girl was pregnant. Yes, I mentioned it in an early post of mine, and almost everybody has jumped all over that. Why? Is it common in every city in the States that pregnant 17 year old girls are committing armed robbery? As far as I know, it isn’t common in my neck of the woods. That to me was newsworthy. Good gawd, let’s shoot the messenger!
Or is it the following that you feel wasn’t touched upon?:
If this is what you're still wondering about, I think it’s a chicken and egg situation. Who really knows for sure which is responsible for what? I certainly don’t know. If I had to choose, I’d agree with your assessment that it's a screwed up world because these things happen.
Jack, your posts were fine. I’m not the least bit ticked off with you.
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From what I understand, the girl wasn't pregnant, she was a part of a terrorist robbing crew, they even drove a brand new 2007 Cadillac, meaning they robbed quite a few people. They attacked an innocent person with a guns, but they just messed with the wrong person and got killed.
If a pregnant woman comes up to you with a shotgun to your head, what would you do? I'm pretty sure 17 year olds get pregnant in Canada as well. Especially Vancouver, because its one if not the most crime ridden city in Canada.
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 08:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
From what I understand, the girl wasn't pregnant, she was a part of a terrorist robbing crew, they even drove a brand new 2007 Cadillac, meaning they robbed quite a few people. They attacked an innocent person with a guns, but they just messed with the wrong person and got killed.
If a pregnant woman comes up to you with a shotgun to your head, what would you do? I'm pretty sure 17 year olds get pregnant in Canada as well. Especially Vancouver, because its one if not the most crime ridden city in Canada.
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Oh lordy lordy, it's hopeless...
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FieroOilAnalyst
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JUN 01, 08:51 PM
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I don't know... when I read Patrick's first post...
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Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed. |
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I took it more as a "and can you believe this...the girl that was killed was a pregnant teen. What is happening in this world?"
Apparently others felt different.
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Uaana
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JUN 01, 09:42 PM
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FOA.
Ya, I think most of us can see maybe that's what Patrick was saying.
Unfortunately some of his previous posts have probably colored peoples opinions of him and his posts.
Just my 2c
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FieroOilAnalyst
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JUN 01, 09:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Uaana:
FOA.
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Definitely don't put much weight into what I say. I actually had to sit here for a minute to figure out what you meant here. LOL 
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 09:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Uaana:
Ya, I think most of us can see maybe that's what Patrick was saying.
Unfortunately some of his previous posts have probably colored peoples opinions of him and his posts.
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Uaana, that's a pretty cheap shot.
After all the crap I've taken from most of you in this thread, you come on here and make a comment like that?
You could at least supply a link or two or three to back up that statement.
What a friggen cheap shot...
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Fastback 86
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JUN 01, 09:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Fine, but where do you draw the line? Why report the guy was a Marine? Why report he was a guy? Why report he was a cook? Why report a knife was used? Why report it happened in Atlanta?
Should every male ex-Marine living in Atlanta working as a cook who’s ever used a knife be offended or pleased or what?
Interestingly enough, two facts that were never mentioned (in any news reports I’ve read) were that both the Marine and the girl were black. What will some of you read into that? Am I now being racist? |
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I understand what you're saying, Patrick, but my point was not about which details should or shouldn't be reported. What I meant was, why do we need special perspective because it was a girl? Are women given special consideration when they participate in crimes? The fact is, she was involved in an armed robbery and things turned out very poorly for her. Why should I feel any differently than if it were one of the boys who died?
For the record, I haven't negged you, there has been no reason to in this thread. Anyone who has is an idiot, and they can quote me on that when they neg me.
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Patrick
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JUN 01, 10:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by FieroOilAnalyst:
I don't know... when I read Patrick's first post...
I took it more as a "and can you believe this...the girl that was killed was a pregnant teen. What is happening in this world?"
Apparently others felt different.
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| quote | Originally posted by FieroOilAnalyst:
Definitely don't put much weight into what I say.
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FieroOilAnalyst, before I even get a chance to thank you for having the guts to voice your opinion when it appears to go against the crowd here, you already appear to be backing down. I’m disappointed to say the least... 
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