Moslems & atheist queers ,slam famous combat general (Page 10/21) TK FEB 04, 10:33 PM quote Originally posted by maryjane: I like that there are atheists, and hope their #s increase. their existance will make for a much shorter line in the end And they all came running back over to the Group W bench... LOL Oh, it will be short alright. Patrick FEB 04, 10:34 PM quote Originally posted by Boondawg: And hey, if that's how it is, if that's how it really works, I totally get that. It's the pretending that "that ain't how it is" is what I find hard to swallow. Yeah, it's the absolute denial that's a bit much. Cliff Pennock FEB 05, 06:35 AM quote Originally posted by IMSA GT: I would say that you are correct. If I was almost fatally injured due to some dumbass illegal, I would hate every illegal that is out there. My life (and that of my family) was once threatened by an American. Should I hate every American out there? I was once bitten by a dog. Should I hate all dogs? A woman cheated on me once. Should I hate all women? I once almost died because a doctor made a mistake. Should I hate all doctors? I once almost died in a car accident, because some guy thought it was OK to cut in front of me. Should I hate all guys? I you have answered "no" to any of these questions but still think it's OK to hate every "illegal" out there because of the action of one, then by definition you are a racist. Your prerogative, but don't give me that crap it's totally acceptable to be a racist. Stubby79 FEB 05, 06:38 AM quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: My life (and that of my family) was once threatened by an American. Should I hate every American out there? I was once bitten by a dog. Should I hate all dogs? A woman cheated on me once. Should I hate all women? I once almost died because a doctor made a mistake. Should I hate all doctors? I once almost died in a car accident, because some guy thought it was OK to cut in front of me. Should I hate all guys? Yes! aceman FEB 05, 09:35 AM Just a question? Where are the racist statements in this thread? I see prejudicial slurs and comments and bigotry, but no racist comments. I can't fault a person for the color of their skin. I can't fault someone for their ethniticity. They had no choice in the matter. But religion, immigration status and to an extent sexual orientation is all what a person can choose and control. Is being a bigot "better" than being a racist? Possibly. It's debatable. maryjane FEB 05, 09:57 AM quote Originally posted by aceman: Just a question? Where are the racist statements in this thread? I see prejudicial slurs and comments and bigotry, but no racist comments. I can't fault a person for the color of their skin. I can't fault someone for their ethniticity. They had no choice in the matter. But religion, immigration status and to an extent sexual orientation is all what a person can choose and control. Is being a bigot "better" than being a racist? Possibly. It's debatable. Maybe the rules changed from race/creed/skin color based hatred to be more all inclusive.? Don't like people who don't like Fieros? You may be a racist. Don't like people who drive Civics? You may be a racist. Don't like people who don't like people? You mayy be a racist. Don't like racists? You may be a racist. starlightcoupe FEB 05, 11:07 AM quote Originally posted by htexans1: Well, for every Uhlanstan you have a Ray.b and a Neptune. We can't have one without the others. Stan doesn't bother me one bit. His style of grammar and his "storytelling" are different, but he does mean well. Uhlanstan is a Marine. He served in Vietnam. Chances are he does have a reason to type the way he does. This is America, if you dont like Stan, and you see his thread, feel free to pass it on and go to the next one. Maybe even stay out of O/T. As for me, I say 'Stan has paid his debt to America, let him rant. Many veterans here paid their debt to America. So can I be racist, an independent thinker, homophobe as well and not get lambasted for expressing an opinion such as that I think Republicans are crap along with their Democratic buddies? In this discussion, I agree with Don that I don't particularly agree with Boykin. I also resent an extremist Right Wing organization comprised of rich influential insiders holding a Prayer Breakfast on military reservations. I had to endure them in the military for 23 years while knowing that The Family (quick, FieroBear and Avengador, google "The Family") is behind the National Prayer Breakfast. There probably isn't any harm with the NPB being sponsored by extremists but why did President Eisenhower agree with it? Gridlock FEB 05, 11:23 AM Yes, the post is for sure more offensive on the basis of bigotry, not racism. There may be a racist rant in his original post, I just can't understand what he's saying to know if there is or not. For people that are looking to provide more excuses for Stan, I don't think he means "hey, I f'ing love these guys!" when you combine the word moslem with "athiest queers" I think the best post in this thread is the one that descibes the double standard of as long as he doesn't offend your personal group, its ok. In my mind, providing an acceptable outlet for bigotry and hate and general offense to people is as bad as being that yourself, or saying it with your own mouth, or writing. Read closely, because that's not a knock on Cliff, that's a knock on every bigoted member of this forum(of which there are many) saying, "oh, its just Stan" I've been a member since 2002. That's 10 years I've been logging into PFF off and on, and for the last 8 I haven't even owned a Fiero. I took a break for a few years, and come back and notice a significantly more negative tone in O.T. Maybe its the fact that a lot of other people have already left? I don't know. I do know that right now, I don't really want to post here, or read excuses for hate like its acceptable. This isn't a "poor me" statement at all. I guess I'm just putting out there that if this is the level of acceptability for statements such as this, then I guess I'm left to vote with my feet and actions. Sage FEB 05, 12:10 PM No matter HOW you judge a man.............you're wrong. Boondawg FEB 05, 12:17 PM quote Originally posted by Gridlock: Yes, the post is for sure more offensive on the basis of bigotry, not racism. There may be a racist rant in his original post, I just can't understand what he's saying to know if there is or not. For people that are looking to provide more excuses for Stan, I don't think he means "hey, I f'ing love these guys!" when you combine the word moslem with "athiest queers" I think the best post in this thread is the one that descibes the double standard of as long as he doesn't offend your personal group, its ok. In my mind, providing an acceptable outlet for bigotry and hate and general offense to people is as bad as being that yourself, or saying it with your own mouth, or writing. Read closely, because that's not a knock on Cliff, that's a knock on every bigoted member of this forum(of which there are many) saying, "oh, its just Stan" I've been a member since 2002. That's 10 years I've been logging into PFF off and on, and for the last 8 I haven't even owned a Fiero. I took a break for a few years, and come back and notice a significantly more negative tone in O.T. Maybe its the fact that a lot of other people have already left? I don't know. I do know that right now, I don't really want to post here, or read excuses for hate like its acceptable. This isn't a "poor me" statement at all. I guess I'm just putting out there that if this is the level of acceptability for statements such as this, then I guess I'm left to vote with my feet and actions. I quote this becouse I agree with this. See Gridlock, now WE have a group! I will excuse you and you can excuse me, and everyone else we will simple tear down and marginalize until we make them "an enemy of the state"! Get ready, get set,.............................take a break.