UNbiased opinion wanted (Page 10/14)
SuperchargedV6 NOV 15, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by JazzMan:


Tha Driver, you apparently haven't spent time in OT and have had to deal with Toddster's particular style of disagreeing with people.

I looked at the pictures and no, Toddster's (admitted) mistake in choosing "new" as their category was not correct. Also, on my scale of 10 being perfect OEM and 0 being a few tattered pieces of red yarn stuck to rotted bits of rubber, I'd rate them somewhere around a 5 or 6, certainly nowhere near an 8 or 9. As to the timings of when and how pictures were requested and posted it's obvious mistakes were made, especially when Toddster assumed that you were the one that requested them. I personally don't deal with ebay because of the way people "make" mistakes, deliberate or otherwise.

Given his past behavior, I suspect that you'll get a negative feedback on ebay, for rebuttal I suggest you post a link to this thread and to a search of Toddster's name in OT, that should make things more clear about the value of that negative feedback to others interested in doing business with you. You've been professional and straightforward in this entire ordeal, even in not mentioning Toddster's name, someone else had to bring that up. I think you've bent over backwards to be fair and honest in this, and am sorry you've had to put up with the result.

FWIW,

JazzMan




+1 for you You summed it up fairly professional and to a T. Rick
buds NOV 15, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by SuperchargedV6:
+1 for you You summed it up fairly professional and to a T. Rick



+2 for you.....I'd say they were a 5-6 on my scale.
Tha Driver NOV 15, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by JazzMan:


Tha Driver, you apparently haven't spent time in OT and have had to deal with Toddster's particular style of disagreeing with people.

I looked at the pictures and no, Toddster's (admitted) mistake in choosing "new" as their category was not correct. Also, on my scale of 10 being perfect OEM and 0 being a few tattered pieces of red yarn stuck to rotted bits of rubber, I'd rate them somewhere around a 5 or 6, certainly nowhere near an 8 or 9. As to the timings of when and how pictures were requested and posted it's obvious mistakes were made, especially when Toddster assumed that you were the one that requested them. I personally don't deal with ebay because of the way people "make" mistakes, deliberate or otherwise.

Given his past behavior, I suspect that you'll get a negative feedback on ebay, for rebuttal I suggest you post a link to this thread and to a search of Toddster's name in OT, that should make things more clear about the value of that negative feedback to others interested in doing business with you. You've been professional and straightforward in this entire ordeal, even in not mentioning Toddster's name, someone else had to bring that up. I think you've bent over backwards to be fair and honest in this, and am sorry you've had to put up with the result.

FWIW,

JazzMan



Thanks for that. I'm not sure if I've ever even been to OT. I just check out this & the mall. I check the tech forum to glean info & to post help for others. After all I've been building custom cars for nearly 40 years. The mall of course to find & sell parts (not much luck selling, though - but I *have* sold a couple hood vents of my own design (have one to sell now BTW). Come to think of it not much luck buying either: most shtuff that I'm looking for people want more than I can afford.
I really don't care about the neg. feedback; I'm sure I''ll get that. Hell I'd get that even if I had paid & got the mats, 'cause I would have left him a neg. for mis-reprsenting the item. I still have a very good rating (he'll only be the second to leave a negative). Truth is I don't care if I ever buy anything from egay again, although I *do* get a good deal there every once in a while. If not for good deals I couldn't afford to build any of my projects. But more & more I think egay is just not worth the hassle & chances you take. Maybe Craig's list is where I should look. I found a set of racing seats there for my solo project & the guy brought them by for $75. They're like new & new would have cost me $120 + shipping.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Headline: APATHY RUNS RAMPANT - Nobody cares.
KurtAKX NOV 15, 10:52 PM
I swore I wouldn't post in here after reading what this was about, but **** it, I decided to be positive.

I don't really give a fucq what you're all arguing about, since I see validity on both sides, but I'd like to see Indy stuff preserved since I am looking to someday own an Indy (being that my bday is May 27 1984 and all).

Why not just coat the back of the mat with some of that vinyl tool-handle dip or something to make sure it stays together and in good condtion?

Hey Driver, why not get some black rubber floor mats for daily driving to preserve what you've already got?

When I get my Indy, its gonna get a set of thick black ribbed floormats just like my old man put in his 86 SE V6 when it was new. They're called PantsSavers, and anybody daily-driving around ruining stock floormats should be flogged.
Tha Driver NOV 15, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by KurtAKX:

I swore I wouldn't post in here after reading what this was about, but **** it, I decided to be positive.

I don't really give a fucq what you're all arguing about, since I see validity on both sides, but I'd like to see Indy stuff preserved since I am looking to someday own an Indy (being that my bday is May 27 1984 and all).

Why not just coat the back of the mat with some of that vinyl tool-handle dip or something to make sure it stays together and in good condtion?

Hey Driver, why not get some black rubber floor mats for daily driving to preserve what you've already got?

When I get my Indy, its gonna get a set of thick black ribbed floormats just like my old man put in his 86 SE V6 when it was new. They're called PantsSavers, and anybody daily-driving around ruining stock floormats should be flogged.



Well I was going to do that with aftermarket mats, saving the original ones for shows. It also has what I believe to be factory seat covers (slip over to preserve the seats). I was going to get a set of seats covered similiar to the originals for daily driving & swap in the originals for shows. But screw it: I took off the seat covers & plan to drive it that way & I don't care if the seats are worn to hell from driving it with jeans. It looks better without the seat covers. I doubt I'll show it much anyway, & I'm sure not going to spend any more money on it now.
Anyone want the covers? Make me an offer. I'll email a pic of them.
Edit: So flog me.
Hey Indy are you going to post the other pic I sent (did you get it)?
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

It's been so long since I've had sex, I can't remember who gets tied up.

[This message has been edited by Tha Driver (edited 11-15-2007).]

Curlrup NOV 15, 11:21 PM
Life is too short let it go folks, just let it go. Have a beer watch Futurama on Adult Swim and work on your cars, and everything else will fall into place. Karma is a ***** sometimes.
Tha Driver NOV 16, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Curlrup:

Life is too short let it go folks, just let it go. Have a beer watch Futurama on Adult Swim and work on your cars, and everything else will fall into place. Karma is a ***** sometimes.



Don't drink beer.
Since I moved 2 years ago I only have a small *indoor* antenna sitting up on the roof. Usually get 2 channels clear; I ALWAYS get the @#$%^&* SPANISH channel clear!!!! (guess what language we use here in the US of A? Hint: It's NOT SPANISH. It REALLY p***es me off that the ONLY channel that ALWAYS comes in clear is in a language for #$%^&* ILLEGAL aliens!!!!
I REALLY miss the Jap anime on Adult Swim..... Did they ever do anymore Cowboy Bebop? Finish translating Sailor Moon? (not Adult Swim I know but I love Sailor Moon)
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

I'm so poor, my bologna has no first name.
CenTexIndy NOV 16, 09:34 AM
Here is the other pic. Ohio is a bit busy today, so I am posting it.



Car looks good. Don't let it go to waste, but have fun driving it. The cars were meant to be driven.

I hope you don't mind me asking: "Where did you buy that car?"
2002z28ssconv NOV 16, 08:20 PM
I didn't think that eBay let you change descriptions after a bid gets placed. I understand why the allow pictures to be added though. But the LATE addition of that picture is a change in the description in my eyes. If the failing backing surface had been mentioned in the description, totally different circumstance! But that picture (worth 1,000 words by the way) was an absolute change in description. An ethical seller would have allowed an earlier bid to be retracted, relisted the item with all pictures present and moved on. He even admits that he described it poorly. Just another one of those $75-9/10-Indy-Floor-Mat-too-good-to-be-true stories.

I bought a $300 hood for a 67 GTO once (~1997) that was supposed to be perfect condition. "Just paint to match and bolt on." When I got it, it looked like it had been driven through a picket fence. The front edge was all beat up. And it didn't happen in shipment unless the freight company happened to drop it into tubs of bondo.

Lesson = Never buy anything in used condition from a location too far away to "visit" if the seller misrepresents the item.
Tha Driver NOV 20, 02:18 AM
Update (if anyone is interested :-)
Todd sent ebay for a "Unpaid Item Mutual Agreement", which I agreed to (simply told them that the item was not as described & we mutually agree to not go through with the transaction). He is now released from paying the ebay fees.
I got the following follow-up from ebay:
"Dear drivertoo,
The dispute involving Fiero Indy Pace Car Floor mats (#170164542893) has been closed by mutual agreement.
You are released from any obligations to sold!!!! regarding this item.
Thank you,
eBay"
Too bad he couldn't just do this to start with... But anyway, we'll still be able to leave feedback. Will be interesting to see what he says.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Since I gave up hope I feel much better.