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Fastback 86
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MAY 24, 08:15 PM
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You'll never get it, will you, Bill? It doesn't matter whether you like it, agree with it, personally voted for it, or feel above it, the law in this country says that what you're doing is illegal. Possesing, distributing or using controlled substances is illegal, and you've openly admitted to 2 of those. No one cares about your self-righteous, self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed whining about being persecuted. You're breaking the law thats on the books and you know damn well that you're doing it. No amount of ranting about your personal interpretation (with no legal background to support it) of the law is going to change it. Either do something proactive about it, or be the mature adult you claim to be and stop whining.
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84Bill
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MAY 24, 08:28 PM
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So sue me...
| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86:
You'll never get it, will you, Bill? It doesn't matter whether you like it, agree with it, personally voted for it, or feel above it, the law in this country says that what you're doing is illegal. Possesing, distributing or using controlled substances is illegal, and you've openly admitted to 2 of those. No one cares about your self-righteous, self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed whining about being persecuted. You're breaking the law thats on the books and you know damn well that you're doing it. No amount of ranting about your personal interpretation (with no legal background to support it) of the law is going to change it. Either do something proactive about it, or be the mature adult you claim to be and stop whining. |
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Here is how I do it.. I ignore convention and replace it with my will and it is with respect to others rights AS follows....
The world WOULD be a better place if people would stop VILLIFYING an inanimate object. Someone one told me I should argue with a stop sign because it is a violation of my rights.. I figure why argue the point with an inanimate object when I can look both ways, make sure it is clear and not even bother to stop?
If it is not clear then I will acquiesce to the other person’s RIGHT of way. I don’t need a piece of metal and a myriad of laws to make an unreasonable DEMAND of me or how I am to act in society. I do what is best for all concerned.
A stop sign does not mean it is safe to punch the gas just because you came to a complete stop when commanded then plow into traffic. But it does happen and many of those who do it have NO EXCUSE.. They are "perfect" examples as to why stop signs are useless at protecting anyone. But they are effective excuses to hand you a ticket, jack up your insurance rates and exploit your weakness and addiction to driving a car. That’s a fact of life and that IS the reality.
A stop sign is just a stupid piece of metal with a word scrawled on it but because you believe in it makes you a slave to it. Not me.. I just look out for cops and other people I share the roadways with.. To me a stop sign is a meaningless hunk of aluminum propped up on a steel stick... Care to argue about that fact and continue whining about how I live my life?[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 05-24-2007).]
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fierofetish
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MAY 24, 08:41 PM
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Depends an awful lot on your interpretation of WHY the sign had been initially placed there, Bill.If you choose to regard it as an authoritarian mandated order, to spoil your day for the fun of it,then you will get annoyed by it. If you choose to regard it as a thoughtful bit of advice, placed there because somebody used to NOT stop, and people got killed or injured in the ensuing accident, then it becomes a useful tool in protecting your life, and enhancing your driving experience.It wasn´t placed there because somebody in authority wants to spoil your day or driving experience..it was put there to ensure, should you and others heed it, we can continue to enjoy life unharmed.
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lurker
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MAY 24, 08:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by whadeduck:
I'm an alcoholic, drug-using pedophile with a gambling addiction who beats my wife. 
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think about it. why would he retain an alkie druggie short-eye gambling domestic abuser for even 1 year?
i suspect other employers know exactly what this guy's about and how much credence to give him.[This message has been edited by lurker (edited 05-24-2007).]
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84Bill
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MAY 24, 09:01 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierofetish:
Depends an awful lot on your interpretation of WHY the sign had been initially placed there, Bill.If you choose to regard it as an authoritarian mandated order, to spoil your day for the fun of it,then you will get annoyed by it.
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It is what it is.. and when no one is looking I ignore it as if it were never there. I do not argue with things I can not change only ignore them when the authority is in direct proportion to its existance.
Cop didnt see it I didnt do it and as long as I dont destroy anothers personal property I dont think they care.. I know I dont when I see them doing it.
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If you choose to regard it as a thoughtful bit of advice, placed there because somebody used to NOT stop, and people got killed or injured in the ensuing accident, then it becomes a useful tool in protecting your life, and enhancing your driving experience.It wasn´t placed there because somebody in authority wants to spoil your day or driving experience..it was put there to ensure, should you and others heed it, we can continue to enjoy life unharmed.
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Nick.. I was victimized by
A. A stop sign
B. A person who ignored a stop sign.
C All the above.
One cold day while driving to Bricktown Nj. I was lulled into a false sense of secutity whild traveling 50 MPH on a highway. There were many side roads with stop signs prominetly displayed giveing me the sense that all was right and well with the world..
Until a 70 year old man ran one and COMPLETELY destroyed my car. Had it not been for that fact that I wear my seatbelt I would most likely not be here today as the bruise from the belt ran across my ribcage and got progressivly more violent in color the higher up one looked.
I'm not going to sit here and preach a sermon on the saving graces od seatbelts but I will say that the law requireing people to wear them is just as much BULLSHIT as the stop sign that failed to protect me.
What protects me from others is my awareness of my surroundings and the safeguards I personally employ. I do not depend on the multitudinous, raft of laws which for all practical purposes seem to indicate to the unweary sheeple that it is safe. Maybe.. but I feel it is more of a method of gleening money on an exponential scale form the autmotively addicted society..
I am very much more aware of people than I am a stop sign. I give little regard for the object and its associate morass of laws and alot more regard to the sheeple barreling down the road with a cell phone shoved in their ass hole.[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 05-24-2007).]
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Fastback 86
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MAY 24, 09:23 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
So sue me...
Here is how I do it.. I ignore convention and replace it with my will and it is with respect to others rights AS follows....
The world WOULD be a better place if people would stop VILLIFYING an inanimate object. Someone one told me I should argue with a stop sign because it is a violation of my rights.. I figure why argue the point with an inanimate object when I can look both ways, make sure it is clear and not even bother to stop?
If it is not clear then I will acquiesce to the other person’s RIGHT of way. I don’t need a piece of metal and a myriad of laws to make an unreasonable DEMAND of me or how I am to act in society. I do what is best for all concerned.
A stop sign does not mean it is safe to punch the gas just because you came to a complete stop when commanded then plow into traffic. But it does happen and many of those who do it have NO EXCUSE.. They are "perfect" examples as to why stop signs are useless at protecting anyone. But they are effective excuses to hand you a ticket, jack up your insurance rates and exploit your weakness and addiction to driving a car. That’s a fact of life and that IS the reality.
A stop sign is just a stupid piece of metal with a word scrawled on it but because you believe in it makes you a slave to it. Not me.. I just look out for cops and other people I share the roadways with.. To me a stop sign is a meaningless hunk of aluminum propped up on a steel stick... Care to argue about that fact and continue whining about how I live my life?
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Bill, really, I agree with you about villifying drugs. But the fact of the matter is, you're not doing anything about it but complaining. You're not writing your congressman or starting petitions. You're just complaining about being persecuted. I have respect for anyone who makes an honest effort to do it the right way and change the law if they feel its unconstitutional. But you're not. You're just ignoring (and breaking) the law and complaining about being punished for it. Talk is cheap. Not only are you not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. If you don't want to be persecuted, stop breaking the law or work to have the law changed. Or at least don't gloat about your illegal activities, because regardless of how you rationalize them, they're still illegal in the country you live in.
As for the stop sign, you find a better way of making sure people don't run into each other at intersections, intentionally or not, you let me know. Til then, stop complaining.
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fierofetish
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MAY 24, 09:25 PM
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Yes, you are right in a way..when we tend to respect those signs, we come to depend on them, and develop a false sense of security....only to be rudely awakened into reality when somebody else DOESN'T...so your point about being aware of the sign, but not always expecting it to protect you, and therefore using your own alertness and observation as well, can combine to make you safer.You have made a valid point about how Laws can sometimes backfire on their original purpose, and render you open to accident or injury because somebody else does something totally unpredictable..like not understanding, or disregarding, or not even caring about why the sign was put there in the first place.But, you must admit, that the sign being there alerted you to the fact that you should be even MORE vigilant than usual, because it denotes the hazard there.So, even though you don´t respect the sign in itself, it HAS helped you make a judgment in your favour 
Nick
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84Bill
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MAY 24, 09:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86:
Bill, really, I agree with you about villifying drugs. But the fact of the matter is, you're not doing anything about it but complaining.
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I'm not complaining, I'm defending. There is a difference.
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You're not writing your congressman or starting petitions.
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Doent work.. If anything it draws unwanted attention.. Kinda like what I'm deaing with in this thread but on a very real and liberty threatining level.
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You're just complaining about being persecuted.
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No, I'm complaining about my friends being persecuted and I'm complaining about ass holes like Uanna and Phranc who feel it's okay to spend BILLIONS on jailing people for possesing an inanimate object and villifing them for the rest of their lives instead of opening up a FREE clinic to people who WANT to get off drugs.. I dont want to get off drugs, I like drugs.. gimme drugs and I'll go away and be happy until I'm unhappy and seek help. Either way I'm free to decide and that makes me VERY happy.
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I have respect for anyone who makes an honest effort to do it the right way and change the law if they feel its unconstitutional.
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The law IS Un-Constitutional. The constitution trumps laws and the only way to figh laws is to attack the laws and the foundations they rest upon.. which are the untruths and villifications created by those who care not about FREEDOM. Communists, Socialists and other pinko bastards.
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But you're not. You're just ignoring (and breaking) the law and complaining about being punished for it.
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I am? When was I cought and when did I say I'd complain about it?
I'm complaining or rather demanding redress of my grievences to the masses on PFF. Why? Because it is here. Majority rule dictates I must sway majority mentality and direct it to the evidence I present that supports my position. IE it is illegal to tell me what I can posses and what I can not posess especially when I have not proven to be incapable or irrisponsible.
Except when congress does it.
But it's okay gag me? Restrict me? Okay, I'm done talking, I'm actively involved in ignoring the laws which ignore my rights. And when it comes time to play in Kangaroo court I'll have my paper and pencil out to take notes on what not to do to get cough again. The thing about law is one will live to fight another day so the war is far less lethal. But you think my "welfare dole" is expensive now? HAhahah Wait till you get my legle bills I'm public defender and he is my slave and must do what I tell him. My real lawyer is sitting in the background telling me what to do next. I dont even have to speek in court.. ALL paper, no deals.
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Not only are you not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
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No the solution that some sociallist dictator came up with which subverts my rights is the problem..
I didnt make the laws I just ignore them when they violate my Constitutional Rights and the rights of my friends. I am a free man until I am no longer free and then the real fighting will begin...
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If you don't want to be persecuted, stop breaking the law or work to have the law changed
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Laws change by those who are willing to stand and fight for their own rights against those who ignore choose to be ignorant of them. That is my work and I have an awesome job to do.
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Or at least don't gloat about your illegal activities, because regardless of how you rationalize them, they're still illegal in the country you live in.
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My country is run by Constitutional rights not by laws. If you say this is not my country or that I do not have rights then I will agree and fight to take it back until the day I die.
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As for the stop sign, you find a better way of making sure people don't run into each other at intersections, intentionally or not, you let me know.
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I dont care about what other do, I only care about what I do and keep my eyes open and stay alert. The sheeple and the man are working in tandem. The scared masses to fearful to question the teeth of their four legged masters being lead to slaughter.. such an ugly sight to see but one I am quite used to.
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I'm not complaining, I fighting for my rights and it appears you dont like it..
Go join Phrank and Uanna and oppose me. The more who do the more I like it.
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Fastback 86
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MAY 24, 10:43 PM
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Bill, the law says its not your right. That law was made under the provisions of the Constitution. Until its decided by a court of law that drug laws are not in congruence with the Constitution, you DO NOT, in this country, have a right to posses or use drugs. Its that simple. The fact that you don't agree with that law or its Constitutional interpretation is IRRELEVANT, because you are not an authority on the law. When you get elected to Congress or appointed to the Supreme Court, then your personal opinion will matter. Start fighting or stop whining. And by "start fighting," I mean somewhere where it will actually matter, not on an internet forum.
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84Bill
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MAY 24, 11:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86:
Bill, the law says its not your right.
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And I say YOU and the LAW are wrong.. you may continue with you complaints about me.
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That law was made under the provisions of the Constitution. Until its decided by a court of law that drug laws are not in congruence with the Constitution, you DO NOT, in this country, have a right to posses or use drugs. Its that simple. The fact that you don't agree with that law or its Constitutional interpretation is IRRELEVANT, because you are not an authority on the law. When you get elected to Congress or appointed to the Supreme Court, then your personal opinion will matter. Start fighting or stop whining. And by "start fighting," I mean somewhere where it will actually matter, not on an internet forum. |
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Incorrect the laws were smithed in such a way that men like Tim Leary almost overturned them. It took years and years of careful study on how to subvert the rights of the people and at last it was agreed to just "control it." That is WHY it is called possesion of a "controlled substance" becasue the government controls it. Prior to that the people controlled it and used it and possesed it and then the morality pigs cam up with sheeple scaring tactics which were BY FAR more effective than any laws could ever be. It also herolded into being the ugly monster of all mankind.. Democacy..
Reefer madness assumed that people would loose their minds and young women would be suduced into sleezy torrid sexual frenzy...  I like seducing females and sleezy torrid sexual frenzies that ensue..
bbl gott go call the GF and make a deal for sexual favors...
Oh and please.. lodge more complains against me and whine on about what a bad person I am becasue I "dont stay within the lines."
I can read very well and I dont need gaggle of powdered whig waring hair splitters to make a law based on bullshit.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
I am the governed and I say get out of my personal business and leave me and my dope boiz alone.[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 05-25-2007).]
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