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84Bill
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SEP 14, 01:48 PM
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No, not at all John but I will not answer questions that you already have the answers to.
Your predispositions are like walls..
| quote | Originally posted by jstricker:
Does the truth hurt you that much that you can't even hear it?
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Toddster
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SEP 14, 01:58 PM
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still waiting for an answer:
| quote | Originally posted by Blabberboy:
"You arent free and you don't live in a free country.
Not only are you a slave but you are a bobble head nodding in total agreement with the powers that be who tell you how to think, how to speek how to act. You are bombarded by your masters bullcrap every waking moment of you existance. They control everything you do, no matter what you do and where you "choose" to do it. You cant even walk down the street anymore without official "papers" proving you are who you say you are... to be submitted upon "lawful" command.
Freedom has been revoked. It has been replaced by a contract, a "privilage" that you.. and me have signed that is subject to revocation on a whim so you have no choice but to go along with it. "
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| quote | Originally stated by Thomas Jefferson:
"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws outright restrain him; every man is under the natural duty of contributing to the necessities of the society, and this is all the laws should enforce on him; and no man having a natural right to be the judge between himself and another, it is his natural duty to submit to the umpirage of an impartial third."!!!
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Well Bill, you seem to be enjoying talking to yourself, when are you going to reconcile your blabbering with Jefferson's position. Afraid your feeble brain will blow a fuse? 
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84Bill
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SEP 14, 02:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Toddster:
still waiting for an answer:
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Whats the problem?
Answer does not compute?
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Well Bill, you seem to be enjoying talking to yourself, when are you going to reconcile your blabbering with Jefferson's position. Afraid your feeble brain will blow a fuse? |
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LOL!!
Must be why I use the QUOTE button every time I write reply... Just talking to walls.. Yup, thats me!
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intlcutlass
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SEP 14, 02:43 PM
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Flying the flag is ALWAYS important.
But always flying the flag numbs us.
My little boy has this Seseme Street video Where Elmo wishes it could be Christmas everyday, and how after a while, you loose it's meaning.
I think what Bill is actually trying to get across is, if your going to do something, like fly the flag, or vote.... whatever..... Know why you are doing so. Make it an meaningfull thing to you.
I fly mine everyday.... and a year or so ago, I hadn't even noticed it was freying... Why... Because I got so use to it being there.
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pokeyfiero
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SEP 14, 02:46 PM
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Anyway . . . If you people are done once again trampling a September 11th thread I thought I would post the original message again.
| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
I know I don't have to remind anyone of this but I'm doing it anyway.
Fly the Flag, Support our Troops!
Please join us in this FLY THE FLAG campaign.
We have less than 24 hours and counting to get the word out all across this great land and into every community in the United States of America.
THE PROGRAM IS THIS:
On Monday, September 11th, 2006, an American flag should be displayed outside every home, apartment, office, and store in the United States.
Every individual should make it their duty to display an American flag on this fifth anniversary of our country's worst tragedy. We do this in honor of those who lost their lives on 9/11, their families, friends and loved ones who continue to endure the pain, and those who today are fighting at home and abroad to preserve our cherished freedoms.
Thank you.
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I do have a question regarding the care and respect of the flag for anyone who is informed on this matter.
I have a very large U.S flag originally flown on an active military ship during a time of war. This flag is about 40 years old and the thread condition is in good shape.
The problem is this. There are several holes from enemy fire and the end is tattered from the wind.I have flown this flag often and didn't feel it was disrespectful to fly it in said condition because I felt it had history.
I have been told it was inproper to fly our flag in this condition so I have not but still feel there is a need to see the truth about war and the scars we have endured.
Is it ok to fly this flag?
Should it be retired?
Should it be repaired?
I intend to place a large flag pole here at the ranch and thought it would be nice to take down the new flag and fly this one during heightened anniversaries such as Sep 11,feb 1,Jan 28,Apr19,Jan27,Dec 7,Memorial day ect..
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PLAY HARD-DIE FAST And folks always remember to eat before driving on the coast.If you fly off the cliff and no one finds you the only thing worse than knowing you are going to bleed to death alone is to do it hungry.
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htexans1
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SEP 14, 02:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by pokeyfiero:
Anyway . . . If you people are done once again trampling a September 11th thread I thought I would post the original message again.
I do have a question regarding the care and respect of the flag for anyone who is informed on this matter.
I have a very large U.S flag originally flown on an active military ship during a time of war. This flag is about 40 years old and the thread condition is in good shape.
The problem is this. There are several holes from enemy fire and the end is tattered from the wind.I have flown this flag often and didn't feel it was disrespectful to fly it in said condition because I felt it had history.
I have been told it was inproper to fly our flag in this condition so I have not but still feel there is a need to see the truth about war and the scars we have endured.
Is it ok to fly this flag?
Should it be retired?
Should it be repaired?
I intend to place a large flag pole here at the ranch and thought it would be nice to take down the new flag and fly this one during heightened anniversaries such as Sep 11,feb 1,Jan 28,Apr19,Jan27,Dec 7,Memorial day ect..
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Why don't you take this flag and have it framed in a picture frame with a little historical certificate or statement attesting what the flag had gone through on the ship. As for flying it, contact your local American Legion in town or the VFW. Either veterans org. would be more than happy to explain to you the proper method of display for that flag.
Additionally the VFW and American Legion both respectfully retire Flags no longer suitable for flying.
S. Williams------------------
1988 Fiero Formula T-tops
CJB 143 of 1252 "factory T-top cars"
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blackrams
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SEP 14, 03:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by intlcutlass:
Flying the flag is ALWAYS important.
But always flying the flag numbs us.
My little boy has this Seseme Street video Where Elmo wishes it could be Christmas everyday, and how after a while, you loose it's meaning.
I think what Bill is actually trying to get across is, if your going to do something, like fly the flag, or vote.... whatever..... Know why you are doing so. Make it an meaningfull thing to you.
I fly mine everyday.... and a year or so ago, I hadn't even noticed it was freying... Why... Because I got so use to it being there.
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Intlcutlas,
If you followed the complete thread and if you followed any of Bill's ramblings over any issue involving the "government", he stays very consistent. He's pro Bill, anti anything that may keep him from, (working from memory here) speeding as fast as he wants to, smoking dope or using dope, he's anti business management and doesn't seem to understand why he doesn't have all his needs taken care of and eveyone else is wrong on virtually everything that he doesn't agree with. Bill is a lonely, delusional person in serious need of some care that he apparently can't get living at home with his parents. He also refuses to agree with anything that might involve fighting to protect this nation. He's a coward and a social outcast. That just about covers what I remember from past threads. Why, who knows, he simply wants to be king and rather than accepting that he has a social responsibility to give as much as he gets, he'd rather rant and cuss folks out. Yep, Bill would be an interesting case to study if he weren't so pathetic. This thread was started to honor the losses of 9/11 and honor those who have volunteered to serve to protect our nation. I asked Bill to let this happen, he just couldn't let it go. If I get flamed for stating the way I see this, so be it but, I'd remind everyone that they have allowed or encouraged Bill to insult just about everything this country stands for. I am not saying that Bill doesn't have the right to say the things he has said, just that he's really needing some help. ------------------
Ron
Freedom isn't Free, it's paid for with the blood and dreams of those that have gone before us.
My imagination is the only limiting factor to my Fiero. Well, there is that money issue.
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blackrams
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SEP 14, 03:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by pokeyfiero:
Anyway . . . If you people are done once again trampling a September 11th thread I thought I would post the original message again.
I do have a question regarding the care and respect of the flag for anyone who is informed on this matter.
I have a very large U.S flag originally flown on an active military ship during a time of war. This flag is about 40 years old and the thread condition is in good shape.
The problem is this. There are several holes from enemy fire and the end is tattered from the wind.I have flown this flag often and didn't feel it was disrespectful to fly it in said condition because I felt it had history.
I have been told it was inproper to fly our flag in this condition so I have not but still feel there is a need to see the truth about war and the scars we have endured.
Is it ok to fly this flag?
Should it be retired?
Should it be repaired?
I intend to place a large flag pole here at the ranch and thought it would be nice to take down the new flag and fly this one during heightened anniversaries such as Sep 11,feb 1,Jan 28,Apr19,Jan27,Dec 7,Memorial day ect..
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Pokey,
I believe the flag technically should be retired or at least not flown, that doesn't mean it can't be kept and displayed. I'll try to do a little research and find out for you.------------------
Ron
Freedom isn't Free, it's paid for with the blood and dreams of those that have gone before us.
My imagination is the only limiting factor to my Fiero. Well, there is that money issue.
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Jake_Dragon
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SEP 14, 04:01 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by pokeyfiero:
I do have a question regarding the care and respect of the flag for anyone who is informed on this matter.
I have a very large U.S flag originally flown on an active military ship during a time of war. This flag is about 40 years old and the thread condition is in good shape.
The problem is this. There are several holes from enemy fire and the end is tattered from the wind.I have flown this flag often and didn't feel it was disrespectful to fly it in said condition because I felt it had history.
I have been told it was inproper to fly our flag in this condition so I have not but still feel there is a need to see the truth about war and the scars we have endured.
Is it ok to fly this flag?
Should it be retired?
Should it be repaired?
I intend to place a large flag pole here at the ranch and thought it would be nice to take down the new flag and fly this one during heightened anniversaries such as Sep 11,feb 1,Jan 28,Apr19,Jan27,Dec 7,Memorial day ect..
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One of the jobs I had in the Navy was to create memorial boxes for Flags, most of them were for new flags but some were for retired flags. They were then given to retired E-6 and above. I created a lot of those triangle boxes. They would have little brass plates with the enlistment of the retired Sailor or the name of the ship. This was a pretty wide practice from what I was told. The flags would be folded in such a way that the stars would be displayed in the middle and a red or white strip could be seen on the sides. It was not the normal way of folding the flag but it looked good. We would use a piece of cardboard as a pattern.
That is a good final resting place for any flag. Just fold it up in a triangle and make a box to fit it. Then put on some nice molding and your done. You can even add a light like the ones put at the bottom of pictures to light it up. I got out of the Navy as an E-3 so I didnt get one but I may one day make my own.
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Songman
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SEP 14, 04:05 PM
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