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dasher
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JAN 20, 11:07 PM
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then why did you bring me in to this flame war?
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88_Fiero_2M4
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JAN 21, 08:46 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Slammed Fiero: You base your HP claims on what the modifications will do on a different motor. Not a very scientific manner (or accurate) way of gathering data. Im just tired of people """CLAIMING"" hp #'s with nothing to back it up with.. Also a few things stand out that shoot your theroies to hell.
# 1.. a well built 3.4 made 135 hp @ the wheels , with a 15% driveline loss that is just shy of 160hp @ the flywheel. # 2 Shaun Hammits dyno proven (I will post slips tomorrow) 2.8 with a 75 SHOT OF NITROUS made just over 200hp @ the flywheel. So BS-ing and saying taking off a belt here , acam there and getting rid of the cat will yield 200hp is just that...a load of Bull. Threatened... Don't know sh1t..ahh ok... I just don't shoot off inaccurate claims with no real evidence to back it up. You don't even have 1/4 mile #'s to crudley guesstimate from....you just guess from what other engines have done and what your uncle larry has told you. JM |
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For one Slammed I never asked you. I really dont see how you can have such a positive rating when you slam everyone for anything. I am starting to think by your attitude and name that you dont really like the Fiero anyway. My Guess is you dont even own one. So to you making HP with any engine in one may threaten you. I have a suggestion. Since all You can do is insult everyone, you sould find a differant hobby. I really dont care about your opinoins anymore since all you have to say seems to prove your IQ isnt very high, Must be cause all the foul language in your posts. You must have some kind of complex going on here that makes you attack everyone for any Ideas that they have. My orignal post wasnt even directed at you. The guy who started this post asked for a way to get more power out of the duke. I am willing to bet that even if my figures are way off that at least there will be some horse power gains by what I have suggested. I would be very willing to bet that With the modifications except the belt due to the 88 only has one belt, that there would be a HP gain. But according to you there wouldnt be much of a gain. So what Maby all I would be happy with would be just to get it above 100 HP at the wheels. All I really want to see out of the Duke is to be able to accelerate with normal traffic without having to push the Peddle all the way to the floor. Like durring Thanks giving where I had a loaded Bull Rack nearly out accelerate me. I was realy upset to see a simi able to accelerate just as fast as my Fiero. To me any way to get a Cheap HP gain would be worth it. I personaly am not trying to make my duke run with a 2.8, All I want is just to have it accelerate alittle faster. ------------------ Don Pottorff Red 88 2M4 Silver 86 2M4
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Oreif
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JAN 21, 09:21 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by 88_Fiero_2M4: To me any way to get a Cheap HP gain would be worth it. I personaly am not trying to make my duke run with a 2.8, All I want is just to have it accelerate alittle faster.
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The problem isn't that you want more horsepower, It was the fact that you "claimed" (with advice from a friend and your cousin) That a cam and bolt-ons will get you to 200hp. Which is not possible. Then you got defensive when your claim was called on.
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Slammed Fiero
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JAN 21, 09:58 AM
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here is the car I don't have.. www.geocities.com/morley_m/northstar.htm Im not intimidated by a duke with 200hp as you can see... I simply don't like newbies such as the person who started the thread to be mislead into believing that the duke can create 200hp... This is the problem with the forum and forums in general. Someone comes on and asks a question..then there is always someone who posts page after page of BS about performance or how they make 10000hp..yet have no dyno slips to prove it.. they blah blah blah on ...if you call them on their claims..they say they don't have anything to prove... Well making outrageous claims such as a duke can make 200hp requires some proof to be taken serious by anyone with a drop of knowledge about performance Im done arguing... Oh //by the way..My low ass IQ managed to get me a University Degree in automotive marketing. I wasn't born with a wrench in my hand , but I would bet a Northstar 5spd with a direct port nitrous setup is a wee bit harder to build then taking the cat and AC belt of of a 2.5. Here's the slip for a 2.8 with a cold air setup and a crane ignition. this is on a 50 shot. The car made 155hp @ the wheels... thats 178 flywheel hp.. with a 75 shot it made 212 Flywheelhp... so your telling me little weiner ass mods is going to net 200hp out of a motor with 2 less cylinders?? and no nitrous??? (this car is an automatic) Have a nice day Mr. Performance...
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need help plz
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JAN 21, 10:06 AM
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the duke was never meant to be and never will be a performance engine. it was built as a commuter...
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Slammed Fiero
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JAN 21, 10:06 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by 88_Fiero_2M4: I really dont care about your opinoins anymore since all you have to say seems to prove your IQ isnt very high, Must be cause all the foul language in your posts.
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you question my IQ , and use the word " cause" in the same sentence ..did you mean because? FYI if your going to questions someones intelligence and infer that yours is superior, atleast use proper english... I also can't belive you threatened someone on the internet (Shaun) ... you don't look like a badass..you look fat. JM
[This message has been edited by Slammed Fiero (edited 01-21-2004).]
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GT86
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JAN 21, 10:16 AM
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I gotta agree with Slammed on this. Making HP claims without anything to back them up is a waste of time and bandwidth. Stuff like "it sounds faster", or "well, it feels faster" don't mean anything. Anyone posting about their HP needs to post dyno sheets or don't bother making claims. It's what I call the "Loch Ness Monster Syndrome". People claim to have seen it, or know someone who has, there are some blurry pictures that could be anything, and some videos of waves on a lake. But not a shred of definitive proof. Same kinda thing here... [This message has been edited by GT86 (edited 01-21-2004).]
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FastIndyFiero
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JAN 21, 11:51 AM
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Hey Cliff, do you happen to have any of those padlocks lying around???
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88_Fiero_2M4
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JAN 21, 07:33 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Slammed Fiero: you question my IQ , and use the word " cause" in the same sentence ..did you mean because? FYI if your going to questions someones intelligence and infer that yours is superior, atleast use proper english...
I also can't belive you threatened someone on the internet (Shaun) ... you don't look like a badass..you look fat. JM
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I wish you would not defile my Pictures I post. Do it again and you will find yourself in a Court with a Copyright Lawsuit. I took the picture and didnt give you premission to use it.
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stimpy
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JAN 21, 07:52 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by 88_Fiero_2M4: I wish you would not defile my Pictures I post. Do it again and you will find yourself in a Court with a Copyright Lawsuit. I took the picture and didnt give you premission to use it. |
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Bwah-hahahahahaha! Oh stop, you're killing me! Seriously, you are just way to sensitive, man. You need to go to www.fiero.com and join the play group over there. You're just not ready to roll with the big dogs.
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