How is this legal? (Page 1/2)
Jake_Dragon NOV 13, 08:04 PM
He parks next to the hydrant and runs an electrical line to a box to power his motor home.

Patrick NOV 13, 08:40 PM

Why is there an electrical box sticking out of the boulevard beside a fire hydrant?
Jake_Dragon NOV 14, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


Why is there an electrical box sticking out of the boulevard beside a fire hydrant?



Exactly. From the same place that brought you this.


maryjane NOV 14, 09:18 AM
The line looks broken..or cut.
Jake_Dragon NOV 14, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

The line looks broken..or cut.



The first picture is a capture from Google maps.
But the cord is connected and there is power to the RV. The RV is just under the size limit to be parked on the street. This is just one of the many RVs parked on the street in our neighborhood.
I had hoped they would expand the law to these like they did for LA. There is a huge issue with people renting out RVs parked on the street to people that have no other options.
pokeyfiero NOV 14, 01:11 PM
That makes no sense.
How is there an outlet for power on the street?
Who's power is that?
I think around here you can't even park 15' from a hydrant.
Jake_Dragon NOV 14, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

That makes no sense.
How is there an outlet for power on the street?
Who's power is that?
I think around here you can't even park 15' from a hydrant.



Exactly.
This was ran by the homeowner. Most of the RV owners just run extension cords across the sidewalk.
Doug85GT NOV 14, 03:17 PM
I doubt there is an outlet installed in that box. I'll bet the RV owner spliced into wiring in that box.

I have seen similar things done by homeless people. Last year while walking through Capitol Park next to the Vietnam War Memorial, I saw a homeless guy laying next to a podium that has information about Capitol Park. He had opened up a panel at the base of the podium, spliced into wires and ran a set of wires to his phone charger. The next day I saw repairmen working in that panel to fix the damage. I'll bet that phone charge cost the tax payers a few hundred dollars in damage to call up an electrician to fix it.
Patrick NOV 14, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

That makes no sense.
How is there an outlet for power on the street?
Who's power is that?




Those were my thoughts as well.


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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

This was ran by the homeowner. Most of the RV owners just run extension cords across the sidewalk.



Doesn't your city/town check for electrical code violations? This seems so blatantly illegal (as well as potentially dangerous).



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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

I think around here you can't even park 15' from a hydrant.



Good point.

There's a lot of weirdness in that one photo. I don't think I've seen an AstroTurf boulevard before! I guess it needed to match the yard.

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82-T/A [At Work] NOV 15, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Doesn't your city/town check for electrical code violations? This seems so blatantly illegal (as well as potentially dangerous).





That actually depends... although it looks weird, it looks like everything that was done here is legitimate. Outdoor outlets are totally legal, and you can have them in the yard too... they just need to be installed with weather-tight PVC conduit, and it needs to be in a weather-protected receptacle cover and housing, which it does have. It's California, so it almost never rains, and that's fake grass so they don't water it (would still be OK if it was). The only thing is that on the other end, it would need to be part of a GFCI, and I don't think it can be more than 20 AMPs, otherwise there are stricter rules. It's all in NERC, which both the US and Canada follow.


I think the only problem here though, is that the city may not want it installed near a fire hydrant, and the RV is definitely closer than 10-15 feet, and the fact that he's installed an outlet there tells me he does it all the time. But as far as installation goes, it looks fine.


One way you can totally around regulations like that too, is if the outlet that you see there, is actually not hard-wired to the home, but pops out somewhere near the home with an extension cord, and someone has to plug it in on an external outlet on the house. A LOT of people do that...