Pearl Harbor A Date Which Will Live in Infamy FDR Speech (Page 1/1)
blackrams DEC 07, 08:35 AM
Pearl Harbor A Date Which Will Live in Infamy FDR Speech

https://www.bing.com/videos...8A756D4&&FORM=VRDGAR

A date and speech worth remembering, all of us should remember (especially our political leaders).
Not intended as a thread to bash Japan now but, the events and deception, circumstances of leading up to December 7th are lessons we should not forget.

Rams

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Rams
Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. .
You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.

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maryjane DEC 07, 09:14 AM
Along those lines, the Japs knew what and how to do it because 'we' showed them.

a free and open blueprint of destruction

"In 1938, the war gaming called Fleet Problem XIX consisted of several parts. After conducting general tests of fleet capability during Parts I through IV, the fleet reorganized and reset for Part V. During that exercise (conducted 25 30 March) Red (U.S.) forces were to defend Hawaii from Blue (Japanese) forces. Following the advice of his friend Rear Admiral Ernest King, Vice Admiral Edward Kalbfus planned a surprise air attack on Pearl Harbor. King directed the carrier Saratoga to detach from the main fleet and steam independently to a point northwest of Hawaii. While transiting behind a storm front (as similarly done during Grand Joint Exercise 4), she would launch an air attack against Pearl Harbor very early on Tuesday, 29 March, from 100 miles north of Oahu.


Like the war game strikes six years before, the impact of the air attack was devastating and set the stage for a successful invasion of Oahu by Blue forces.11 Although heightened security resulted in no press coverage of the surprise attack, details were leaked to the press months later.12 The overwhelming success of the attack, with fewer attacking assets used than during the 1932 exercise, clearly showed that the U.S. military had not reacted sufficiently to mitigate issues exposed by the earlier attack.


In stark contrast to elements within the U.S. Navy especially the battleship admirals, who refused to acknowledge the success or innovativeness of the 1932 attacks naval leaders in Japan paid close attention. Japanese military observers were on board fishing vessels off Oahu, taking detailed notes about all they saw that day.13 The Japanese Consulate in Honolulu sent a detailed memo to Tokyo, detailing how the surprise attack was accomplished.14 The Japanese War College studied the original 1932 attack four years later and came to the conclusion in case the enemy s main fleet is berthed at Pearl Harbor, the idea should be to open hostilities by surprise attack from the air. 15


The planning details of the 7 December 1941 attack were nearly identical to those of Admiral Yarnell s 1932 attack, with the notable exception of an increase in aircraft carriers involved to six. This echoed Yarnell s earlier statements that ideally six to eight carriers would be needed to support major offensive operations in the Pacific. The attack was launched on a Sunday from northeast of the island after a high-speed final run toward Oahu under radio silence, leveraging the masking effects of a winter Pacific storm. The Japanese force launched a similar number of aircraft (180) to attack island airfields and then proceeded to attack warships at anchor.


Japanese military leadership had learned the value of the 1932 attack. U.S. military leadership had not. Thus, the United States paid dearly in blood and treasure. Had U.S. military leaders been more open to the impact of naval air power in the years leading up to 7 December 1941, might the United States have escaped a date which will live in infamy ?

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Sage DEC 07, 05:00 PM

Notorio DEC 12, 11:30 PM
Something we forget is that Imperial Japan opened their war with Russia in 1904, with a surprise naval attack. ('Remember Port Arthur!') They used this experience to plan Pearl Harbor.

Battle of Port Arthur

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