Is the CDC (Page 1/1)
2.5 FEB 12, 11:12 AM
Because they say this about the vaccine:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine...ering-questions.html

snippets copied 2/12/21:

"COVID-19 vaccines are being tested in large clinical trials to assess their safety. However, it does take time, and more people getting vaccinated before we learn about very rare or long-term side effects. That is why safety monitoring will continue. CDC has an independent group of experts that reviews all the safety data as it comes in and provides regular safety updates. If a safety issue is detected, immediate action will take place to determine if the issue is related to the COVID-19 vaccine and determine the best course of action.

Both this disease and the vaccine are new. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who get infected or those who are vaccinated.

Experts do not yet know what percentage of people would need to get vaccinated to achieve herd immunity to COVID-19.

All the COVID-19 vaccines being used have gone through rigorous studies to ensure they are as safe as possible. Systems that allow CDC to watch for safety issues are in place across the entire country.

Due to the severe health risks associated with COVID-19 and the fact that reinfection with COVID-19 is possible, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19 infection.

No data are available yet on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines in lactating women or on the effects of mRNA vaccines on breastfed infants or on milk production/excretion. mRNA vaccines are not thought to be a risk to breastfeeding infants.

To make sure that more information is gathered regarding the safety of these vaccines when administered during pregnancy, pregnant people are encouraged to enroll in v-safe, CDC’s new smartphone-based tool being used to check-in on people’s health after they receive a COVID-19 vaccine.

Serious problems from vaccination can happen, but they are rare. CDC has learned of reports that some people have experienced severe allergic reactions—also known as anaphylaxis—after getting a COVID-19 vaccine.

Not enough information is currently available to say if or when CDC will stop recommending that people wear masks and avoid close contact with others to help prevent the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19.

Experts need to understand more about the protection that COVID-19 vaccines provide in real-world conditions before making that decision. Other factors, including how many people get vaccinated and how the virus is spreading in communities, will also affect this decision. We also don’t yet know whether getting a COVID-19 vaccine will prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to other people, even if you don’t get sick yourself.

Vaccine doses purchased with U.S. taxpayer dollars will be given to the American people at no cost. However, vaccination providers can charge an administration fee for giving someone the shot. Vaccination providers can be reimbursed for this by the patient’s public or private insurance company or, for uninsured patients, by the Health Resources and Services Administration’s Provider Relief Fund. "
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For the average Joe, I could see why its hard to gauge if its worth getting it, really.

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maryjane FEB 12, 11:47 AM
"Is the CDC" what?
2.5 FEB 12, 03:05 PM
pffft. Not sure what went wonky there.

The title was: is the CDC "the" recognized source for information on Covid and the vaccine?
maryjane FEB 12, 08:47 PM
Many times, the forum's software won't accept quotation marks in a title.

As far as the article goes, I went tto the CDC website and most of tht is examples of how to explain things to patients. I don't know what the dates are on those 'examples' they are giving to the medical folks. Some of it sounds like it was submitted months ago and CDC hasn't updated.
I personally don't see much wrong with what is stated there.
rinselberg FEB 12, 09:11 PM
Single quotes like 'this' are OK. But not "this"
theogre FEB 12, 09:16 PM
In short, It says "we don't know any are safe or effective and you are the Guinea pigs."

Then add Pfizer et al including govrmnt are protected from lawsuits under PREP Act and other laws.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/1...nsation-lawsuit.html
Being force by employers is often legal and can't sue in many places not just in the US.

Again... I'm not Anti-vax and get many of them over lifetime but in no hurry to get this from any maker.

If/when you get one, don't leave whatever place right away no matter what staff says.
Example: If you have "allergy reaction" like some people do w/ Pfizer and Moderna shots, may need help and fast w/ "epipen" etc.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine...ing-anaphylaxis.html
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Routine observation periods following COVID-19 vaccination*

CDC currently recommends that persons without contraindications to vaccination who receive an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine be observed after vaccination for the following time periods:

● 30 minutes:
... ○ Persons with a history of an immediate allergic reaction of any severity to another (non-mRNA COVID-19) vaccine or injectable therapy
... ○ Persons with a history of anaphylaxis due to any cause {Ogre added this to quote... Like people allergic to Bee Stings, Peanuts, etc.}
● 15 minutes: All other persons

* Note: Persons may be observed for longer, based on clinical concern. For example, if a person develops itching and swelling confined to the injection site during their post-vaccination observation period, this period may be extended to assess for development of any hypersensitivity signs or symptoms consistent with anaphylaxis (described below).



If you get Epinephrine, expect getting send to hospital next. Is "rule" says "use Epipen etc then automatic go to hospital" and that means ER Visit and High Bill most times.

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rinselberg FEB 13, 05:44 PM
Coronavirus Vaccine Tracker
Carl Zimmer, Jonathan Corum and Sui-Lee Wee for the New York Times; updated Feb. 11, 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/int...vaccine-tracker.html

This is the most complete compendium of technical information about the various Covid-19 vaccines and vaccine candidates that I know of.

Technical information for a general audience, including Internet page links positioned strategically for the reader to go directly to even more vaccine-related information; this, for example, is how the NOVAVAX entry gets underway:

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VACCINE NAME: NVX-CoV2373
EFFICACY: 89.3% against most variants
DOSE: 2 doses, 3 weeks apart
TYPE: Muscle injection
STORAGE: Stable in refrigerator

Maryland-based Novavax makes vaccines by sticking proteins onto microscopic particles. They’ve taken on a number of different diseases this way; their flu vaccine finished Phase 3 clinical trials last March. The company launched trials for a Covid-19 vaccine in May, and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations invested $384 million to support research on the vaccine. In July the U.S. government awarded Novavax another $1.6 billion to support the vaccine’s clinical trials and manufacturing.


And here's how it ends:
"For more details, see How the Novavax Vaccine Works."

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2.5 FEB 13, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Single quotes like 'this' are OK. But not "this"



Is 'this' proper English? Interesting
2.5 FEB 13, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I personally don't see much wrong with what is stated there.



Well, this is the stuff they do state. That could be why it isnt entirely eye catching.
cvxjet FEB 13, 06:17 PM
2.5...I recently started a thread and half the title disappeared when I posted it......Maybe I should just ""Pre-view"" it before....."submitting".........

(Also, over on another thread I posted a drawing but labeled it slightly corrupted from what I now have it labeled as and it would not load the picture; "Peacock strut")