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blackrams
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FEB 05, 08:57 AM
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Interested in your opinions.
Personally, I've looked at as many of the different factors as I can find and how kids not being in an actual school with everything that offers. I've also been reading and hearing about some teacher unions that won't come back and do their jobs due to concerns for their own safety.
IMHO, kids need to be back in school, parents need their kids in school for many different reasons. Some school districts are considering extending the school year into the summer to make up for what kids have lost out on.
Life is a risk and we've all chosen our different paths. If you don't like the path you're on, then take the Y in the road and take a different path. Teachers, get your asses back in the class room or find something else to do.
Public employees do not (IMO), have the right to strike. LEOs, FIre Fighters, DOT, ATC, the military and all the others, they chose their paths, teachers are included. Do your fricking Jobs.
Rams
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maryjane
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FEB 05, 09:14 AM
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quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Interested in your opinions.
Personally, I've looked at as many of the different factors as I can find and how kids not being in an actual school with everything that offers. I've also been reading and hearing about some teacher unions that won't come back and do their jobs due to concerns for their own safety.
IMHO, kids need to be back in school, parents need their kids in school for many different reasons. Some school districts are considering extending the school year into the summer to make up for what kids have lost out on.
Life is a risk and we've all chosen our different paths. If you don't like the path you're on, then take the Y in the road and take a different path. Teachers, get your asses back in the class room or find something else to do.
Public employees do not (IMO), have the right to strike. LEOs, FIre Fighters, DOT, ATC, the military and all the others, they chose their paths, teachers are included. Do your fricking Jobs.
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I'm sure governors and legislators who have supported and enacted various state laws to the contrary will give your opinion all the consideration that is warranted and shall act accordingly with their legislatures posthaste. Yep, I'm sure of it.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-05-2021).]
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blackrams
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FEB 05, 10:32 AM
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quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I'm sure governors and legislators who have supported and enacted various state laws to the contrary will give your opinion all the consideration that is warranted and shall act accordingly with their legislatures posthaste. Yep, I'm sure of it.
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Just as it is with everything else posted on this forum. No doubt on their consideration but, they work for us and should know what we think. Obviously, they probably don't read this forum but, we all should let them know what we think. Would you agree?
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 02-05-2021).]
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maryjane
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FEB 05, 10:39 AM
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I'm not in favor of FORCING anyone to place their lives or the lives of their own family in danger. I signed on and rode for the brand and I live with what that 50 yr old endeavor caused but doesn't mean it should be mandatory for everyone. Dead teachers won't educate a single student and dead parents won't raise a single offspring.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-05-2021).]
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blackrams
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FEB 05, 11:01 AM
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I see this as a viable option.
From a friend of mine who lives in Rowlette, TX:
quote | It's good to be in a semi-sane state... Our kids have been back in the classroom since September.
The district gives parents a choice, remote or in person. It seems to be about 50/50 but more and more are showing up in person as time goes on.
Having and keeping the systems in place for remote also makes it easier if a family truly needs to quarantine, they can continue keeping up with classes during that period before they return to in class learning. |
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Rams
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blackrams
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FEB 05, 11:07 AM
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quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I'm not in favor of FORCING anyone to place their lives or the lives of their own family in danger. I signed on and rode for the brand and I live with what that 50 yr old endeavor caused but doesn't mean it should be mandatory for everyone. Dead teachers won't educate a single student and dead parents won't raise a single offspring.
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You do bring up some valid points, won't even try to debate what dead people can do.
But, I apply the same standard to teachers that are applicable to all those other public employees, LEOs, Fire Fighters and all the others that have chosen to serve their communities.
Rams
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maryjane
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FEB 05, 11:18 AM
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All those others, (maybe school cops excepted) are NOT sequestered 8 hours a day, 5 days a week in a single room with 30 or more kids that will return home every day and in the case of jr high and high school, a different group of the same number of kids every hour which means they will be in close proximity to hundreds of kids each day. Adults out in society and in the greater public domain, tend to be pretty cognizant of following good protocols for the most part. Kids.not nearly so much.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-05-2021).]
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Hank is Here
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FEB 05, 11:24 AM
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My kids shchool is "hybrid" but different than most hypbrids. There are two different models in my district.
Elementary school kids go 1/2 daysm five days a week. Last names A to K go in the morning; L to Z go in the afternoon. Doing this essentially cuts the class loads and bus capacity in half and removes risk points such as the need for lunch time were kids would need to remove their masks to eat. In addition to the in school classes there are classes they do at home. Hey it cuts everthing in half but still allows kids to be in class. For middle/high school kids they go full days in person but alternate Monday/Wednesday or Tuesday/Thursday with Friday being fully online/virtual for all.
Overall these balance kids needs to be in person well, it isn't perfect but it has worked so far. Also it is pain for choldcare but this whole pandemic has been.
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blackrams
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FEB 05, 11:32 AM
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I actually support teachers being in one of the higher groups for getting a COVID vaccine (assuming they chose to do so).
Although, I've already been vaccinated, had I not, I would even support them going ahead of my group myself just like all the other Public Service folks out there that we need to facilitate our society. After thinking about this, it would not be fair for me to volunteer anyone else's position in line for another so, I'll just say that I would let someone take my place in line. But, that doesn't mean I accept such excuses as are being presented to not do their jobs. If they can't get it done, find another employment opportunity with less risk than the one they chose. Obviously, not everyone agrees and that's alright but, letting those school districts and other elected officials know what we want is up to us. I encourage all to do so. They do work for us ya know. 
Edited: See bolded type.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 02-06-2021).]
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Wichita
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FEB 05, 11:47 AM
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It's just teachers unions who keep on moving the "safety" goal post forward no matter how much money, time and effort is spent.
The science is clear that schools and kids are not much of a spreader of Covid-19. But the anit-science left and the teacher unions say otherwise.
What they really want is money and less time for work. Many of these teachers are not even working but still are getting paid, known as "digital dropouts" that first started with students and now have resulted in teachers not even teaching their own online classes, as they said that no students are showing up.
This school closures, mostly in Democratic States, which are still closes as been an utter disaster for kids. It's the saddest case of snuggery and selfishness that has ever been done. But it isn't surprising. Same teachers who refuse to teach kids are the same people who don't put grocery carts back in the parking lot corrals. These so called teachers just want welfare, to be paid without work.
What we need is a mass firing of Union teachers and replacing them with non-union teaching force. Must like Reagan did with the Air Traffic Controllers back in the 80's., for that union tried to hijack the skies and it failed.
Biden has no balls and is beholden to the Teachers Union, so he won't do anything like that. He will leave them be and let the kids suffer. Why should he even care? He is too old to care.
Biden doesn't even want Americans to go out to space, let alone having children go to school.
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