You get the government you deserve Biden and immigrants (Page 1/2)
FriendGregory JAN 17, 03:17 AM
What do you think the Harris / anybody see Biden administration is going to do with immigration, and the related issues.
I think part of the below migration is the giving away of the US treasury for just being here.

Honduras: First migrant caravans of 2021 depart for US

https://www.dw.com/en/hondu...rt-for-us/a-56233882
rinselberg JAN 17, 06:23 AM
So, FriendGregory, I'm thinking that there's a strong argument to be made for looking to the discipline of mereotopology for an answer; to wit:

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In formal ontology, a branch of metaphysics, and in ontological computer science, mereotopology is a first-order theory, embodying mereological and topological concepts, of the relations among wholes, parts, parts of parts, and the boundaries between parts.

~Wikipedia.

Consider this proposition--not proven, but conjectural:

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More effective federal policies in terms of public health infrastructure, management of the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic and national preparedness for the future (inevitable) pandemic threat that will arise after Covid-19 will sustain FriendGregory (and the rest of us) through times of Immigrant Caravans more advantageously than Denial of Entry to Immigrant Caravans will sustain FriendGregory (et al) through times of less effective federal policies in terms of public health infrastructure, management of the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic and national preparedness for the future (inevitable) pandemic threat that will arise after Covid-19.


I didn't like Donald Trump as a presidential candidate and did not want to see him become President. One of the things that I remember from his earliest days in office is this:


When I saw that, I was thinking "What an azz-clown, this President Trump is turning out to be." Not because I couldn't tolerate the idea of such public insult being directed at former President Obama, but because I thought, what kind of nonsense is this? If Trump really had evidence that the Obama administration had "tapped" [sic] or wiretapped or otherwise illegally surveilled any of the Trump Campaign's communications, or the communications systems at Trump Tower or any other venue within the Trump Organization, why would DJT be spouting off about it in such a public way using the @realDonaldTrump Twitter account?

Wouldn't it have made infinitely more sense for him to have had a quiet word about it with his newly confirmed Attorney General Jeff Sessions? Even respecting the "firewall" that had separated POTUS from the Attorney General in previous administrations, how difficult could it have been for President Trump to have conveyed his concern here in some indirect way to AG Sessions and suggest that there should be a specific undertaking within the DOJ to investigate along this line? (A rhetorical question that comes down to "not very difficult at all.")

AG Sessions had just recused himself from matters related to the "Russia" investigation, but the suggestion could have been forwarded from AG Sessions to someone else of authority within DOJ without getting cross-wise with the "recusality" of the situation. Just pass it on to "whoever" and let "whoever" follow up on it.

Such are my thoughts.


The One-Eyed Jack of Spades looks upon the world, but without the enhanced 3D perspective afforded by the fully stereoscopic vision of the Jack of Clubs or Diamonds.

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Hudini JAN 17, 08:47 AM
Biden has recently met with open border and business lobby groups to come up with a legislative plan for amnesty for the 11-22 million illegals in this country. I would guess then they would have a path to citizenship the same as legal immigrants.

Combine this with his $15 minimum wage plan and we should see plenty of new economic immigrants. I wonder if the folks working the low wage jobs understand who is about to take the lowest paid jobs?
sourmash JAN 17, 08:58 AM
Being a similar foreign transplant as Nimrata Haley Randhawa, Harris feels no loyalty to the traditional American population or ideals. She sees America from an interloper's perspective and where you come to get minority gifts and protected status from the government/corporations and above those of us who lived by the law to build this country.

They sold you the minority preferences theories based on legal citizen levels of minorities and immigration. Then they started allowing 10s of millions of illegals access. Next they're going to allow a 2nd wave of 10s of millions. Illegal immigration is the new American Dream. With only 330 million Americans and a billion wanting in now, your quality of life is on the decline. By 2024 the ship will be a grounded wreck.

For a short while here there have been increasing numbers of Africans with foreign accents. Hard for me to tell if they're Somalian or Haitian or what. They were never here before though. Expect that to accelerate in the next 2 years.

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hammer JAN 17, 09:10 AM
The top Democrats have demonstrated their willingness to discard their useful pawns as soon as they are no longer necessary. Now that they have seen that immigrants are no longer needed to get vote numbers, why would they even bother to keep shipping them here? I can see importing those who are willing to work at needed jobs such as farm work, etc. but otherwise what is the point?
olejoedad JAN 17, 10:00 AM
Many Americans have no problem with "if you're not entering legally, then you can't come in".

Many Americans took issue with BHO saying that he was going to "fundamentally change" America, many even felt it was an attack on the Constitution.

Too many Americans don't pay enough damned attention to anything but their own small sphere of existence.

What is happening in America now is deplorable - and brought to us by the very same bigots who called other Americans "deplorable".

Prove me wrong.
sourmash JAN 17, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by hammer:

The top Democrats have demonstrated their willingness to discard their useful pawns as soon as they are no longer necessary. Now that they have seen that immigrants are no longer needed to get vote numbers, why would they even bother to keep shipping them here? I can see importing those who are willing to work at needed jobs such as farm work, etc. but otherwise what is the point?



There have always been migrant farm workers legally allowed since before my lifetime. This is about flipping the demographic.

They fear (or maybe loathe) us due to having wealth and beliefs instilled in us from before PC witchary. We have enough strength to mount a rally at the Capitol so we are still too strong. We'll all have bars on our windows before it's over.
Wichita JAN 17, 10:58 AM
As the Dems and the Biden Crime Family erect razor wire fencing and 20,000 troops for an empty inauguration, we can at least say they are for a wall and funding the police.
sourmash JAN 17, 02:45 PM
Oops.

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steve308 JAN 17, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by hammer:

The top Democrats have demonstrated their willingness to discard their useful pawns as soon as they are no longer necessary. Now that they have seen that immigrants are no longer needed to get vote numbers, why would they even bother to keep shipping them here? I can see importing those who are willing to work at needed jobs such as farm work, etc. but otherwise what is the point?



Why? Votes