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Zeb
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JAN 15, 07:56 PM
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 15, 08:20 PM
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The various governments need to get out of the habit of being the "provider" for people. The article basically says that he's resigning because people were upset that they were being wrongly accused of having to pay back welfare.
Welfare is good for those who are unable to care for themselves, and as an occasional safety net for when people fall on hard times. But it's become something that everyone seems to expect. Which is insane... it's modern day slavery.
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FriendGregory
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JAN 15, 08:52 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:... it's modern day slavery. |
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Slavery in 2 directions. The ones that work and generate the revenue taxed at the threat of a gun and have the fruit of their labor taken and the ones the welfare is paid to is disincentivized to reach their potential and become self sufficient.
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Wichita
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JAN 16, 12:15 AM
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The welfare fraud in the USA is massive. Some reports claim that around 24% of the trillion dollar welfare monies is claimed by fraud. But I like how they sugarcoat it and call it by "error".
But it is hyper political and protected by politicians, so I don't see any one being called out or brought to justice here in the USA. The Biden Brats who keep voting them in is what they like. So it is essentially a vote buying scheme.
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maryjane
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JAN 16, 01:48 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
The welfare fraud in the USA is massive. Some reports claim that around 24% of the trillion dollar welfare monies is claimed by fraud. But I like how they sugarcoat it and call it by "error".
But it is hyper political and protected by politicians, so I don't see any one being called out or brought to justice here in the USA. The Biden Brats who keep voting them in is what they like. So it is essentially a vote buying scheme.
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Nothing new about that either, except the sheer scale of it all.
Elections in the US have digressed back to great depression times when the candidates campaigned almost completely on 'which one will give ME the most money?"
Welfare comes in many shapes and sizes.
For instance.
A 'cup' of gumbo is currently $9.95 at Pappas seafood restaurant. Guess how much it will be once the $15/hr min wage goes in to effect?
Min wage has always been govt mandated welfare, paid by the private sector.
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Jake_Dragon
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JAN 16, 01:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Nothing new about that either, except the sheer scale of it all.
Elections in the US have digressed back to great depression times when the candidates campaigned almost completely on 'which one will give ME the most money?"
Welfare comes in many shapes and sizes.
For instance.
A 'cup' of gumbo is currently $9.95 at Pappas seafood restaurant. Guess how much it will be once the $15/hr min wage goes in to effect?
Min wage has always been govt mandated welfare, paid by the private sector.
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The other side of this is those of us that have spent most of our lives working and bettering ourselves so we can have nice things and enjoy life are now going to be reduced and going to have to struggle.
What is the point? Perhaps when they come along and put a minimum on my wages?
I wish someone would come along and say hay **** stick this guy has spent the last 20 years bettering himself you should pay him for it and fix his ****ing title.
Nope they wont, they will let me fix their **** for them.
What is the point when I could sit home and make enough to get fat and die early all on the governments tit.
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maryjane
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JAN 16, 01:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
The other side of this is those of us that have spent most of our lives working and bettering ourselves so we can have nice things and enjoy life are now going to be reduced and going to have to struggle.
What is the point? Perhaps when they come along and put a minimum on my wages?
I wish someone would come along and say hay **** stick this guy has spent the last 20 years bettering himself you should pay him for it and fix his ****ing title.
Nope they wont, they will let me fix their **** for them.
What is the point when I could sit home and make enough to get fat and die early all on the governments tit. |
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I do think some (if not most) of the extra federal unemployment benefit program last year was productive.
It went sideways tho, when an unspecified % refused work because the wages were not what they were making before being furloughed and they wouldn't go back to work for less than the extended benefit check was. I have a relative (married to one of my nieces) and a nephew that both turned down jobs with a future upside in favor of collecting the unemployment benefits. I tried to tell them "Take the long view. This will all be over at some point, and you will already have been gainfully employed, in line for raises and promotions instead of just now joining the masses all vying for jobs in a just-now-expanding economy. Today matters far less than all the tomorrows to come."
One (niece's husband) did finally accept a job and has already been promoted up to supervisor and is now making just about the same pay and benefits he was making in late 2019. Nephew tho, is still scraping along on unemployment and whatever work under the table he can find doing odd jobs for relatives. He won't get any from me.
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