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MidEngineManiac
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JAN 15, 11:44 AM
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maryjane
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JAN 15, 12:49 PM
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From the link:
| quote | “Today, there are 385 COVIDICU patients, that’s less than one patient per Ontario’s 492 hospitals. Risk can be minimized with transfers and good management. Urban area hospitals are always above capacity at this time of year – that’s why we campaigned on ending Hallway Healthcare.”
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Sounds like the lockdowns and other protocols are working very well.
The caucus member wrote his opinion. His choice.
Choices have consequences.
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Hudini
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JAN 15, 07:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
From the link:
Sounds like the lockdowns and other protocols are working very well.
The caucus member wrote his opinion. His choice.
Choices have consequences. |
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I think you missed the point. The suicides, divorces, job losses, drug addictions, etc are far far worse than the few people who are being saved with the lockdown.
No children have died. None.
The needs of the many are being crushed by the needs of the few.
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rinselberg
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JAN 15, 07:24 PM
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Some children have certainly become Covid victims and Covid fatalities here in the United States.
It was "maryjane" that just posted a report about X-rays of people who have been diagnosed with Covid. A doctor reports that among the patients that she has seen, about 70 percent of the ones that were asymptomatic had really bad-looking lung X-rays. Of the ones that presented actual symptoms of Covid--100 percent. These bad-looking lung X-rays keep on looking bad. I don't think that enough time has gone by yet to have a firm grasp of the longer and long-term implications for these people.
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MidEngineManiac
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JAN 15, 08:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
I think you missed the point. The suicides, divorces, job losses, drug addictions, etc are far far worse than the few people who are being saved with the lockdown.
No children have died. None.
The needs of the many are being crushed by the needs of the few. |
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Service-industry and mom-and-pop companies are dropping like flies here. I know one girl who has done commercial cleaning for 17 years and is now offering whole-house clean for 50 bucks. I am lucky as fruck that I held on to a few telecommute contracts when I moved here, otherwise I'd be in the same boat on shitz creek with no paddle. 3D sales for yesterday were 30 bucks. Thats "bonus" money for me since I set-and-forget, it does its thing while I do mine. October I did over 1k in death whistles.
Now, my favorite pizza joint is closed over this. After 35 years in business. I used to stop there for a slice 15 years ago and would make a special side-trip to get one.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 01-15-2021).]
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MidEngineManiac
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JAN 15, 10:46 PM
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Baber was looking after the people. Ford was looking after the party line.
I know which one is getting a donation next election........
It wont be a Ford this time.
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Hudini
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JAN 16, 07:54 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Some children have certainly become Covid victims and Covid fatalities here in the United States.
It was "maryjane" that just posted a report about X-rays of people who have been diagnosed with Covid. A doctor reports that among the patients that she has seen, about 70 percent of the ones that were asymptomatic had really bad-looking lung X-rays. Of the ones that presented actual symptoms of Covid--100 percent. These bad-looking lung X-rays keep on looking bad. I don't think that enough time has gone by yet to have a firm grasp of the longer and long-term implications for these people. |
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Again, you missed the point. Needs of the many are being crushed by the needs of the few. It is wrong. The government is destroying our way of life with lockdowns. It is that simple. Yes the virus is bad for some. Yes, the deaths of those people suck. However, the damage being done to our society is far far worse.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 16, 09:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
Again, you missed the point. Needs of the many are being crushed by the needs of the few. It is wrong. The government is destroying our way of life with lockdowns. It is that simple. Yes the virus is bad for some. Yes, the deaths of those people suck. However, the damage being done to our society is far far worse. |
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Even though you just expressed that which is obvious...
e.g. you do not enjoy seeing people die, you do not take pleasure in it, you acknowledge that a pandemic is a bad thing...
...MJ will still say that you are uncaring, and don't care about people who have died. Using the same very ridiculous manipulation tactics (or maybe he actually believes it) that radical leftists use to shut down discussion.
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maryjane
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JAN 16, 09:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Even though you just expressed that which is obvious...
e.g. you do not enjoy seeing people die, you do not take pleasure in it, you acknowledge that a pandemic is a bad thing...
...MJ will still say that you are uncaring, and don't care about people who have died. Using the same very ridiculous manipulation tactics (or maybe he actually believes it) that radical leftists use to shut down discussion. |
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No I won't.
I will say the needs of the many are being temporarily affected by the needs of the many.
This is not the first event that has adversely affected the populace of the United States. It's just the first one that the current ("me") generations have experienced and some of them have no idea how o deal with it.
The economy will return just as it always has.
Denial of the severity of the pandemic has already cost the president his job and has now resulted in loss of control of the Senate.
Whether Trump could have done more is moot (tho I truly believe he could and should have) . The perception among a large % of the voters is that he could and should have and he and many of his supporters allowed that perception to grow, resulting in a much closer election result than should have happened.
(edited to correct spelling)[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 01-16-2021).]
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sourmash
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JAN 16, 10:43 AM
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Protect the vulnerable. Leave everyone else alone. Castigate those perpetuating the Draconian tactics. Ridicule those furthering the current ruse. [This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 01-16-2021).]
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