In other news, an airliner from Indonesia has disappeared off radar (Page 1/2)
maryjane JAN 09, 11:53 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01...lane-intl/index.html
50 passengers and 12 crew aboard the older Boeing 737. This obviously will not end well. Looks like airspeed increased from 285 kts to about 350kts on the way down.
Flight 182 lost contact 11 nautical miles north of Jakarta's Soekarno--Hatta International Airport at an altitude of 11,000 feet while climbing to 13,000 feet, officials said.
The plane dropped 10,000 feet in less than a minute before disappearing from the radar, according to the global flight tracking service Flightradar24. The drop happened about four minutes after takeoff, it said.
sourmash JAN 09, 12:29 PM
A couple of Conspiracy radio shows about the last one stated that patent holders (a dozen or 3?) from one entity were on the last one and that the beneficiaries of the patents lived in China or Israel (foggy memory now). Probably Alex Jones's guest was one of them. Yeah I know what it sounds like. I didn't invent the information so don't assail me, please. I'm asking if anyone knows of that?

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IMSA GT JAN 09, 12:39 PM
Don't know how reliable the source is but:


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Fisherman Solihin, who goes by one name, told the BBC Indonesian service he had witnessed a crash and his captain decided to return to land.

"The plane fell like lightning into the sea and exploded in the water," he said.

"It was pretty close to us, the shards of a kind of plywood almost hit my ship."
maryjane JAN 09, 12:47 PM

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Fisherman Solihin, who goes by one name, told the BBC Indonesian service he had witnessed a crash and his captain decided to return to land.

"The plane fell like lightning into the sea and exploded in the water," he said.

"It was pretty close to us, the shards of a kind of plywood almost hit my ship."



A plywood 737...
I knew Boeing had really gone downhill over the last few years, but that's pretty bad there..but not all that surprising either.
Of course, they are HQ'd in Washington State, one of the leading forestry producing states and plywood could be considered a renewable resource so damn the tree huggers, full speed ahead!

(it worked for Howard Hughes...once)
blackrams JAN 09, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


A plywood 737...
I knew Boeing had really gone downhill over the last few years, but that's pretty bad there..but not all that surprising either.
Of course, they are HQ'd in Washington State, one of the leading forestry producing states and plywood could be considered a renewable resource so damn the tree huggers, full speed ahead!

(it worked for Howard Hughes...once)



The article says the plane was 26 years old. I'm thinking the plywood back then wasn't as good as today.
My heart goes out to the families of the passengers and crew.

Rams
maryjane JAN 09, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


The article says the plane was 26 years old. I'm thinking the plywood back then wasn't as good as today.
My heart goes out to the families of the passengers and crew.

Rams


I was thinking the exact opposite. Today's plywood is crap.
MidEngineManiac JAN 09, 03:42 PM
It was a Mosquito self-identifying as a 737.
Raydar JAN 09, 04:22 PM

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"It was pretty close to us, the shards of a kind of plywood almost hit my ship."



Don't they use some sort of foam sandwich insulation or board in some areas of aircraft?
Bulkheads? Floorboards - especially between cabin and cargo area?

Depending upon the color of the foam, it might be what he saw.

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maryjane JAN 09, 04:28 PM
LOTS of insulation of different kinds. Both for sound and temperature control.

I've been away from aviation for a long time so I don't know what they use exactly. Probably whatever is lightest
MidEngineManiac JAN 09, 04:31 PM
Last I saw (20 years ago) it was mostly urathane. yellow/orange in color.