Wanna trust those numbers now ? (Page 1/1)
MidEngineManiac JAN 05, 08:04 AM
https://humansarefree.com/2...ult-of-covid-19.html


https://www.ontario.ca/page...-responding-covid-19
maryjane JAN 05, 09:06 AM
What the conspiracy webpage claims is not what the Ontario.Ca govt webage says.
If you actually read (and understood) what that Ca gov webpage is reporting, then you know they are reporting the overall number of deaths (all causes) and cases in long term care facilities where an outbreak has occured or is currently occurring.


MidEngineManiac JAN 05, 06:11 PM
How about Toronto Sun then. THAT better than a "conspiracy webpage" ?

https://torontosun.com/news...tuVf3WDXDnIVFwmnLJdA
williegoat JAN 05, 06:38 PM
It could have been the poutine that killed them.

MidEngineManiac JAN 05, 06:47 PM
It's a spin, just like this one

https://www.cbc.ca/news/can...ler-london-1.5861544

What they ARENT publishing, is LHSC is Ontario's autopsy hub...car crashes, fire, murder, cancer, drowning, unknown....any corpse that needs an autopsy heads there. They publish a 1/2-truth then leave it to you to jump to the covid conclusion.
cliffw JAN 05, 07:30 PM
Washington State health officials: Gunshot victims counted as COVID-19 deaths

Same claim, admitted by the State


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second linky
“So our method that we use to give up-to-date counts related to COVID death is not our usual process for how we track data for deaths in Washington,” Dr. Katie Hutchison, Health Statistics Manager for DOH. “We had to modify what we normally do in order to quickly meet the data and informational needs of the pandemic. We’re aware that there is some confusion about how this works and whether or not this modified process is accurate.”




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“Our dashboard numbers do include any death to a person that has tested positive to COVID-19.”

That means, if a COVID-19 patient dies of a gun shot wound or in a car crash, the data lists that patient as a coronavirus death. If a tree falls on a coronavirus patient and kills them? It’s listed as a coronavirus death.

“We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes,” Dr. Hutchison admits. “We have about five deaths, less than five deaths, that we know of that are related to obvious other causes. In this case, they are from gunshot wounds.”
Complexities in counting

Hutchison explained to reporters that the Washington coronavirus death data collection is complex, since “providing data in near real time is not our normal process.” Indeed, finalized death data “takes up to 18 months from start to finish.”

Zeb JAN 05, 09:56 PM
“If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything.” — Ronald H. Coase

What do the numbers say?

What do you want them to say?
MidEngineManiac JAN 05, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Zeb:

“If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything.” — Ronald H. Coase

What do the numbers say?

What do you want them to say?



Hey, Man....last I heard New Jewsey body counts didn't add up either.....may its time for new management.

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maryjane JAN 06, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

How about Toronto Sun then. THAT better than a "conspiracy webpage" ?

https://torontosun.com/news...tuVf3WDXDnIVFwmnLJd A


The Sun stated clearly:
"This means that of the almost 3,000 Ontarians whose deaths are included in the provincial COVID-19 case data, it is unknown how many of them did in fact die because of COVID-19""

If you (or anyone else) is alleging that a certain (unspecified) number died specifically from other causes, then it's your responsibility to prove it with something other than rhetoric and innuendo. I'm sure both websites would like to recieve your data as would Canada's health ministry.

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MidEngineManiac JAN 07, 12:28 PM
Footnote #7


https://www.ontario.ca/page...-responding-covid-19

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